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How to stop this pandemic in its tracks and get back to normal
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Stephen DeMay
2020-04-05 19:29:12 UTC
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Can't believe this has not been instituted.
Don't know if you've see the sci fi face shields employees in some stores wear. They look to be a great way to stop both getting the virus and spreading it.
Probably aren't any studies on the effectiveness of the shields but that's the way to go.
These pieces should be number one manufacturing priority and every one in NY NJ area should have the chance to get one.
Citizens could not be forced to wear them when outside but the compliance rate would be very high with moral suasion taking care of those reluctant to wear them. Shiels could be distributed at entrances to large store and/or given out door to door, Would need about 25 million. The US can do that. The president could go on TV to explain to the nation the coming catastrophe if the virus is not checked. Then wait a few weeks and check the new infection numbers. If the numbers go down low have designated people in corporations check all employees every day for fever. If you have fever you can't come back for two weeks.
Certainly not business as usual but good chance to avoid a much bigger disaster than present.
Other areas of the country could put in a reduced form of this system Everyone constantly reminded to constantly wash hands with the warning ...your job requires you to do so,,, attached to the advisement.
Very good chance virus would be gone in two months..
Present practices ain't working in NY, N J and other urban areas. Without implementing this simple approach there will be turmoil probably without an end until a vaccine is developed. Work with it.
Stephen DeMay
2020-04-05 19:36:14 UTC
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Post by Stephen DeMay
Can't believe this has not been instituted.
Don't know if you've see the sci fi face shields employees in some stores wear. They look to be a great way to stop both getting the virus and spreading it.
Probably aren't any studies on the effectiveness of the shields but that's the way to go.
These pieces should be number one manufacturing priority and every one in NY NJ area should have the chance to get one.
Citizens could not be forced to wear them when outside but the compliance rate would be very high with moral suasion taking care of those reluctant to wear them. Shiels could be distributed at entrances to large store and/or given out door to door, Would need about 25 million. The US can do that. The president could go on TV to explain to the nation the coming catastrophe if the virus is not checked. Then wait a few weeks and check the new infection numbers. If the numbers go down low have designated people in corporations check all employees every day for fever. If you have fever you can't come back for two weeks.
Certainly not business as usual but good chance to avoid a much bigger disaster than present.
Other areas of the country could put in a reduced form of this system Everyone constantly reminded to constantly wash hands with the warning ...your job requires you to do so,,, attached to the advisement.
Very good chance virus would be gone in two months..
Present practices ain't working in NY, N J and other urban areas. Without implementing this simple approach there will be turmoil probably without an end until a vaccine is developed. Work with it.
Respirators would be even better than shields . I know they work against infection as I've been using one for two years in a hazardous environment. This is simple can't believeit's not being put into place. Would please everybody.
moviePig
2020-04-05 19:49:20 UTC
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Post by Stephen DeMay
Can't believe this has not been instituted.
Don't know if you've see the sci fi face shields employees in some stores wear. They look to be a great way to stop both getting the virus and spreading it.
Probably aren't any studies on the effectiveness of the shields but that's the way to go.
These pieces should be number one manufacturing priority and every one in NY NJ area should have the chance to get one.
Citizens could not be forced to wear them when outside but the compliance rate would be very high with moral suasion taking care of those reluctant to wear them. Shiels could be distributed at entrances to large store and/or given out door to door, Would need about 25 million. The US can do that. The president could go on TV to explain to the nation the coming catastrophe if the virus is not checked. Then wait a few weeks and check the new infection numbers. If the numbers go down low have designated people in corporations check all employees every day for fever. If you have fever you can't come back for two weeks.
Certainly not business as usual but good chance to avoid a much bigger disaster than present.
Other areas of the country could put in a reduced form of this system Everyone constantly reminded to constantly wash hands with the warning ...your job requires you to do so,,, attached to the advisement.
Very good chance virus would be gone in two months..
Present practices ain't working in NY, N J and other urban areas. Without implementing this simple approach there will be turmoil probably without an end until a vaccine is developed. Work with it.
Two months? A 5-minute at-home test would stop it in two hours.
Stephen DeMay
2020-04-05 20:20:25 UTC
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Post by Stephen DeMay
Can't believe this has not been instituted.
Don't know if you've see the sci fi face shields employees in some stores wear. They look to be a great way to stop both getting the virus and spreading it.
Probably aren't any studies on the effectiveness of the shields but that's the way to go.
These pieces should be number one manufacturing priority and every one in NY NJ area should have the chance to get one.
Citizens could not be forced to wear them when outside but the compliance rate would be very high with moral suasion taking care of those reluctant to wear them. Shiels could be distributed at entrances to large store and/or given out door to door, Would need about 25 million. The US can do that. The president could go on TV to explain to the nation the coming catastrophe if the virus is not checked. Then wait a few weeks and check the new infection numbers. If the numbers go down low have designated people in corporations check all employees every day for fever. If you have fever you can't come back for two weeks.
Certainly not business as usual but good chance to avoid a much bigger disaster than present.
Other areas of the country could put in a reduced form of this system Everyone constantly reminded to constantly wash hands with the warning ...your job requires you to do so,,, attached to the advisement.
Very good chance virus would be gone in two months..
Present practices ain't working in NY, N J and other urban areas. Without implementing this simple approach there will be turmoil probably without an end until a vaccine is developed. Work with it.
Two months? A 5-minute at-home test would stop it in two hours.
An in home test, don't know where you get the five minute business , the test given to the president took 15 minutes, would only indicte ( if accurate ) if that one persdon had the virus. What that person would then do is up to him. If he showed positive do you think he's tell his employer ? probably not. My solution is to virtually end the infection in everyone. There could be pockets of transmission but they could be put under intensive focus. Just letting the infection run would work, if people who have the antigens do not get reinfected...the jury is out on that. Letting it run could result in 5 million or more deaths , a high price to pay politically. Maybe the administration's mirror image graphs will be accurate, not likely. Italy may be leveling off ...at 2/3 of the peak.
Stephen DeMay
2020-04-05 20:29:27 UTC
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Post by Stephen DeMay
Can't believe this has not been instituted.
Don't know if you've see the sci fi face shields employees in some stores wear. They look to be a great way to stop both getting the virus and spreading it.
Probably aren't any studies on the effectiveness of the shields but that's the way to go.
These pieces should be number one manufacturing priority and every one in NY NJ area should have the chance to get one.
Citizens could not be forced to wear them when outside but the compliance rate would be very high with moral suasion taking care of those reluctant to wear them. Shiels could be distributed at entrances to large store and/or given out door to door, Would need about 25 million. The US can do that. The president could go on TV to explain to the nation the coming catastrophe if the virus is not checked. Then wait a few weeks and check the new infection numbers. If the numbers go down low have designated people in corporations check all employees every day for fever. If you have fever you can't come back for two weeks.
Certainly not business as usual but good chance to avoid a much bigger disaster than present.
Other areas of the country could put in a reduced form of this system Everyone constantly reminded to constantly wash hands with the warning ...your job requires you to do so,,, attached to the advisement.
Very good chance virus would be gone in two months..
Present practices ain't working in NY, N J and other urban areas. Without implementing this simple approach there will be turmoil probably without an end until a vaccine is developed. Work with it.
Two months? A 5-minute at-home test would stop it in two hours.
An in home test, don't know where you get the five minute business , the test given to the president took 15 minutes, would only indicte ( if accurate ) if that one persdon had the virus. What that person would then do is up to him. If he showed positive do you think he's tell his employer ? probably not. My solution is to virtually end the infection in everyone. There could be pockets of transmission but they could be put under intensive focus. Just letting the infection run would work, if people who have the antigens do not get reinfected...the jury is out on that. Letting it run could result in 5 million or more deaths , a high price to pay politically. Maybe the administration's mirror image graphs will be accurate, not likely. Italy may be leveling off ...at 2/3 of the peak.
The news is all over the assumption that the next two weeks will be so bad, in deaths and infections then things will get appreciably better. I'll believe it when it happens. Administration is purposely keeps number of tests low to keep numbers down. Sure miss the daily briefing...but it is palm Sunday. Liked the Yahoo story on Palm Sunday in ThePhillipenes with a priest is a make shift side car powered by motor bike blessing the faithful. Don't know if Trump fans are faithful or just hateful of Democrats/liberals/ their betters
moviePig
2020-04-05 22:11:49 UTC
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Post by Stephen DeMay
Can't believe this has not been instituted.
Don't know if you've see the sci fi face shields employees in some
stores wear. They look to be a great way to stop both getting the
virus and spreading it.
Probably aren't any studies on the effectiveness of the shields but that's the way to go.
These pieces should be number one manufacturing priority and every one
in NY NJ area should have the chance to get one.
Citizens could not be forced to wear them when outside but the
compliance rate would be very high with moral suasion taking care of
those reluctant to wear them. Shiels could be distributed at entrances
to large store and/or given out door to door, Would need about 25
million. The US can do that. The president could go on TV to explain
to the nation the coming catastrophe if the virus is not checked. Then
wait a few weeks and check the new infection numbers.  If the numbers
go down low have designated people in corporations check all employees
every day for fever. If you have fever you can't come back for two weeks.
Certainly not business as usual but good chance to avoid a much bigger
disaster than present.
Other areas of the country could put in a reduced form of this system
Everyone constantly reminded to constantly wash hands with the warning
...your job requires you to do so,,, attached to the advisement.
Very good chance virus would be gone in two months..
Present practices ain't working in NY, N J and other urban areas.
Without implementing this simple approach there will be turmoil
probably without an end until a vaccine is developed.  Work with it.
Two months?  A 5-minute at-home test would stop it in two hours.
Imo, nearly everyone who knows they're infectious will self-isolate.
Stephen DeMay
2020-04-06 00:48:31 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by Stephen DeMay
Can't believe this has not been instituted.
Don't know if you've see the sci fi face shields employees in some
stores wear. They look to be a great way to stop both getting the
virus and spreading it.
Probably aren't any studies on the effectiveness of the shields but
that's the way to go.
These pieces should be number one manufacturing priority and every one
in NY NJ area should have the chance to get one.
Citizens could not be forced to wear them when outside but the
compliance rate would be very high with moral suasion taking care of
those reluctant to wear them. Shiels could be distributed at entrances
to large store and/or given out door to door, Would need about 25
million. The US can do that. The president could go on TV to explain
to the nation the coming catastrophe if the virus is not checked. Then
wait a few weeks and check the new infection numbers.  If the numbers
go down low have designated people in corporations check all employees
every day for fever. If you have fever you can't come back for two weeks.
Certainly not business as usual but good chance to avoid a much bigger
disaster than present.
Other areas of the country could put in a reduced form of this system
Everyone constantly reminded to constantly wash hands with the warning
...your job requires you to do so,,, attached to the advisement.
Very good chance virus would be gone in two months..
Present practices ain't working in NY, N J and other urban areas.
Without implementing this simple approach there will be turmoil
probably without an end until a vaccine is developed.  Work with it.
Two months?  A 5-minute at-home test would stop it in two hours.
Imo, nearly everyone who knows they're infectious will self-isolate.
I have it still ( possibly ) I'll be at the grocery store again this week. If you believe people will go against their best interest and not do something they want to do and can't be held liable that seems unrealistic, some will some won't.
There was a briefing today after all...it was psycho. Now the team is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel already, it's doom and gloom yesterday;s news. This is based on the NY and Italian data which I keep up to date on and I see a leveling off at moderate levels EVEN ON LOCKDOWN. Trump has a bug up his ass to open things up real soon. Trump is pushing the malaria drug like nobody's business.
Large parts of the country remain almost untouched by the virus due to its start in coastal areas and the huge distances away from the populations that have the high rates of infection. Seems that what exists when people work and play in terms of exposure has been taken off the board and replaced by a possible" leveling off " ( whatever that means ) of new cases ON lockdown areas.
This crew of clowns is trying to pull a con job on the public. Trump's most frequently used line is , The country's gotta be opened up ". He's going to open up a can of worms,
California is the most atypical state...expected to be badly infected but has had a steady low rate of infection BUT IT IS ON LOCKDOWN.
I keep looking at that well dressed doc who if everything is thought about talks shit.
Stephen DeMay
2020-04-06 01:14:17 UTC
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Post by Stephen DeMay
Can't believe this has not been instituted.
Don't know if you've see the sci fi face shields employees in some
stores wear. They look to be a great way to stop both getting the
virus and spreading it.
Probably aren't any studies on the effectiveness of the shields but
that's the way to go.
These pieces should be number one manufacturing priority and every one
in NY NJ area should have the chance to get one.
Citizens could not be forced to wear them when outside but the
compliance rate would be very high with moral suasion taking care of
those reluctant to wear them. Shiels could be distributed at entrances
to large store and/or given out door to door, Would need about 25
million. The US can do that. The president could go on TV to explain
to the nation the coming catastrophe if the virus is not checked. Then
wait a few weeks and check the new infection numbers.  If the numbers
go down low have designated people in corporations check all employees
every day for fever. If you have fever you can't come back for two weeks.
Certainly not business as usual but good chance to avoid a much bigger
disaster than present.
Other areas of the country could put in a reduced form of this system
Everyone constantly reminded to constantly wash hands with the warning
...your job requires you to do so,,, attached to the advisement.
Very good chance virus would be gone in two months..
Present practices ain't working in NY, N J and other urban areas.
Without implementing this simple approach there will be turmoil
probably without an end until a vaccine is developed.  Work with it.
Two months?  A 5-minute at-home test would stop it in two hours.
Imo, nearly everyone who knows they're infectious will self-isolate.
I have it still ( possibly ) I'll be at the grocery store again this week. If you believe people will go against their best interest and not do something they want to do and can't be held liable that seems unrealistic, some will some won't.
There was a briefing today after all...it was psycho. Now the team is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel already, it's doom and gloom yesterday;s news. This is based on the NY and Italian data which I keep up to date on and I see a leveling off at moderate levels EVEN ON LOCKDOWN. Trump has a bug up his ass to open things up real soon. Trump is pushing the malaria drug like nobody's business.
Large parts of the country remain almost untouched by the virus due to its start in coastal areas and the huge distances away from the populations that have the high rates of infection. Seems that what exists when people work and play in terms of exposure has been taken off the board and replaced by a possible" leveling off " ( whatever that means ) of new cases ON lockdown areas.
This crew of clowns is trying to pull a con job on the public. Trump's most frequently used line is , The country's gotta be opened up ". He's going to open up a can of worms,
California is the most atypical state...expected to be badly infected but has had a steady low rate of infection BUT IT IS ON LOCKDOWN.
I keep looking at that well dressed doc who if everything is thought about talks shit.
That doctor Brix? reminds me of psychiatrist Vieeca Lindfors in Brainstorm . Did a hatchet job on Jeffrey Hunter
moviePig
2020-04-06 02:19:52 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by Stephen DeMay
Can't believe this has not been instituted.
Don't know if you've see the sci fi face shields employees in some
stores wear. They look to be a great way to stop both getting the
virus and spreading it.
Probably aren't any studies on the effectiveness of the shields but
that's the way to go.
These pieces should be number one manufacturing priority and every one
in NY NJ area should have the chance to get one.
Citizens could not be forced to wear them when outside but the
compliance rate would be very high with moral suasion taking care of
those reluctant to wear them. Shiels could be distributed at entrances
to large store and/or given out door to door, Would need about 25
million. The US can do that. The president could go on TV to explain
to the nation the coming catastrophe if the virus is not checked. Then
wait a few weeks and check the new infection numbers.  If the numbers
go down low have designated people in corporations check all employees
every day for fever. If you have fever you can't come back for two weeks.
Certainly not business as usual but good chance to avoid a much bigger
disaster than present.
Other areas of the country could put in a reduced form of this system
Everyone constantly reminded to constantly wash hands with the warning
...your job requires you to do so,,, attached to the advisement.
Very good chance virus would be gone in two months..
Present practices ain't working in NY, N J and other urban areas.
Without implementing this simple approach there will be turmoil
probably without an end until a vaccine is developed.  Work with it.
Two months?  A 5-minute at-home test would stop it in two hours.
Imo, nearly everyone who knows they're infectious will self-isolate.
I have it still ( possibly ) I'll be at the grocery store again this week. If you believe people will go against their best interest and not do something they want to do and can't be held liable that seems unrealistic, some will some won't.
There was a briefing today after all...it was psycho. Now the team is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel already, it's doom and gloom yesterday;s news. This is based on the NY and Italian data which I keep up to date on and I see a leveling off at moderate levels EVEN ON LOCKDOWN. Trump has a bug up his ass to open things up real soon. Trump is pushing the malaria drug like nobody's business.
Large parts of the country remain almost untouched by the virus due to its start in coastal areas and the huge distances away from the populations that have the high rates of infection. Seems that what exists when people work and play in terms of exposure has been taken off the board and replaced by a possible" leveling off " ( whatever that means ) of new cases ON lockdown areas.
This crew of clowns is trying to pull a con job on the public. Trump's most frequently used line is , The country's gotta be opened up ". He's going to open up a can of worms,
California is the most atypical state...expected to be badly infected but has had a steady low rate of infection BUT IT IS ON LOCKDOWN.
I keep looking at that well dressed doc who if everything is thought about talks shit.
If I knew I was a carrier, I'm not sure how readily I'd risk killing
someone by blithely going out in public. But maybe I'm projecting...
Stephen DeMay
2020-04-06 03:32:36 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by Stephen DeMay
Post by moviePig
Post by Stephen DeMay
Can't believe this has not been instituted.
Don't know if you've see the sci fi face shields employees in some
stores wear. They look to be a great way to stop both getting the
virus and spreading it.
Probably aren't any studies on the effectiveness of the shields but
that's the way to go.
These pieces should be number one manufacturing priority and every one
in NY NJ area should have the chance to get one.
Citizens could not be forced to wear them when outside but the
compliance rate would be very high with moral suasion taking care of
those reluctant to wear them. Shiels could be distributed at entrances
to large store and/or given out door to door, Would need about 25
million. The US can do that. The president could go on TV to explain
to the nation the coming catastrophe if the virus is not checked. Then
wait a few weeks and check the new infection numbers.  If the numbers
go down low have designated people in corporations check all employees
every day for fever. If you have fever you can't come back for two weeks.
Certainly not business as usual but good chance to avoid a much bigger
disaster than present.
Other areas of the country could put in a reduced form of this system
Everyone constantly reminded to constantly wash hands with the warning
...your job requires you to do so,,, attached to the advisement.
Very good chance virus would be gone in two months..
Present practices ain't working in NY, N J and other urban areas.
Without implementing this simple approach there will be turmoil
probably without an end until a vaccine is developed.  Work with it.
Two months?  A 5-minute at-home test would stop it in two hours.
Imo, nearly everyone who knows they're infectious will self-isolate.
I have it still ( possibly ) I'll be at the grocery store again this week. If you believe people will go against their best interest and not do something they want to do and can't be held liable that seems unrealistic, some will some won't.
There was a briefing today after all...it was psycho. Now the team is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel already, it's doom and gloom yesterday;s news. This is based on the NY and Italian data which I keep up to date on and I see a leveling off at moderate levels EVEN ON LOCKDOWN. Trump has a bug up his ass to open things up real soon. Trump is pushing the malaria drug like nobody's business.
Large parts of the country remain almost untouched by the virus due to its start in coastal areas and the huge distances away from the populations that have the high rates of infection. Seems that what exists when people work and play in terms of exposure has been taken off the board and replaced by a possible" leveling off " ( whatever that means ) of new cases ON lockdown areas.
This crew of clowns is trying to pull a con job on the public. Trump's most frequently used line is , The country's gotta be opened up ". He's going to open up a can of worms,
California is the most atypical state...expected to be badly infected but has had a steady low rate of infection BUT IT IS ON LOCKDOWN.
I keep looking at that well dressed doc who if everything is thought about talks shit.
If I knew I was a carrier, I'm not sure how readily I'd risk killing
someone by blithely going out in public. But maybe I'm projecting...
For me to go out of my way to protect people I dislike when virtually everyone else is doing the me first bit would be a form of self - aggrandizement or martyrdom.
But back to Trump. Perhaps I can see his cunning. He'll call black whiteknowing his people will believe anything or just won't care and people are itching to get back to normal and when the governors of the states with the high rates of infection say no dice and keep the lockdown in place he will cause portions of the public to turn against the state leaders also he can blame the poor economy on them . Lots of monkeys who will get the relief money will think it is Trump bucks. Would take a long time for many inland states without lock downs to have a meaningful amount of illness so it could be a winning position in November. Sleepy Joe is coming across like Bloomburg in the debates...the little man who wasn't there. Biden reminds me of one of those really old Soviet leaders who died one after another 30 - 40 years ago. If he opened his mouth about anything that is going on Trump would use the briefings to clean his clock.
The animosity between the reporters and Trump is the briefing room may come to a boil. Trump is one of the best stand up acts ever, in the class of Rivers and Rickels. THe docs are double taking now no doubt at the command of their leader. Trump looks as if he's ready to push Rocket Man for the most far fetched virus assessment.
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