Post by Stephen DeMay Post by moviePig Post by Stephen DeMay Post by Stephen DeMay
Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
You do know those "artificial scarcities" you apparently despise are
caused by people who "lay in an enormous amount" and then "add more"...
`If, for whatever good reason, you need, that is need,enough product to withstand a " 2 per customer limit " for some open ended time not to be pro active is negligence. At present schools are closed and will probably not reopen this school year. All restaurants, bars, clubs, movies and theaters are closed indefinately in the NYC greater metro area. Walmart, due to their massive buying power is the only store/super market that is able to restock animal food. Even the new super Walmart I discovered, by far the biggest one floor square footage store I've seen is out of paper products and inexpensive cuts of beef
I've cleaned out a Shop - Rite ( forget my local Stop and Shop ) only left the over priced items at a Target and nearly depleted the WalMart of packaged canned dog food, bagged cat food and litter. Without the Walmart I'd be far from set as to weathering whatever public storm is coming down the road.
In Jersey this panic buying began on Friday I did not find out until Tuesday and have made up for lost time. To try to go against what may be a tidal wave is naive at best. Total haul in three days : 1500 pounds of animal food 700 pounds of litter to add to the 800 pounds I already had. If I do not need all this I'll set it aside for the super hurricane(s ) that are sure to come as sure as shootin'.
Manhattan is the epicenter for the virus due to the infusion of people from other areas and population density. I'm having to revise my estimate of the impact of the virus for several reasons : tho still not a " fatal " illness at least not unless it mutates , government response has been draconian...but it won't help much.
In Whuan everything stopped : people in and out of the city, offices, factories as well as closing schools and keeping people indoors with government food deliveries.
In Manhattan many tens of thousands of commuters in packed buses and trains are in and out five days a week. Millions of people in NYC are at offices and factories. No possibility of the virus not spreading. On Thursday the NYC mayor declared that the number of infected exploded since Tuesday. In China anyone leaving home gets mandatory testing.
Italy is prepared to lockdown everything so many people have died.
The virus will spread from Manhattan to the entire country, especially as symptoms will not show for 4 or 5 days.
I suspect the real reason for the measures that have been implemented in my area ( some stores have already instituted a 50 person in the store maximum ) is to avoid hospitals being overwhelmed by people wanting treatment.
Turns out I was correct in my initial assessment of the problem ( if I had still held stocks I would have sold everything in late January...ironic that the NY stock exchange Dow hit an all time high in late February.)
Dow is now down 30%, figures to drop at least another 10 % . A long term depression with closures of places of business is possible.
Given the open society the mandatory testing of everybody seems unlikely and even so just a few carriers could infect many people already tested.
Trump's failure to implement stringent measures in January/February and what now seems, atbest a serious recession, will be his legacy and my opinion of his chances of re-election have gone from excellent to nil...even Sanders would beat him.
The Stock market will respond to the spread or containment of the illness with Dow under 10,000 a real possibility as industry may be forced to cut back on letting people operate in large numbers in small spaces.
Irony is if the illness was just allowed to run its course with just government intervention on increases of available medical services the ultimate effect on the economy might be less than what will be done.
Things will really be bad when I use the respirator on shopping trips.
I'll be back at Wal Mart on Tuesday, believe it or not the store restocks every day... if product is available. If I see that weekend panic buying has further depleted available goods I'll continue to stock up, if a 2 per item limit is imposed I'll hit several stores as four or five are in the same immediate location or are on the route.
I must be fed.
Plague has been always included in the outlook for the dystopia to come. Trump 's portrait ( with that holy man sky blue , burst of light background ) may be the iconic image that comes to peoples' minds when the topic is raised...Will the Jesus freaks reclassify him as Satan or accept his blaming the Democrats for the whole mess ? China and Trump...perfect together.