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Stephen DeMay
2020-02-11 16:51:30 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.

How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
Stephen DeMay
2020-02-11 17:13:23 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
To be clear the Chinese government promotes use of medical masks...in reality to prevent panic, I've seen reports that docs state a medical mask will not help against the virus. It's unknown how long the virus will live outside the body. I've seen references that it could live for upwards of three weeks. If that's true better start watching films you've been holding off on seeing.
Stephen DeMay
2020-02-11 18:53:05 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
To be clear the Chinese government promotes use of medical masks...in reality to prevent panic, I've seen reports that docs state a medical mask will not help against the virus. It's unknown how long the virus will live outside the body. I've seen references that it could live for upwards of three weeks. If that's true better start watching films you've been holding off on seeing.
i can forsee a Trumpian last address rto he nation in which he says, ' we're all coming together on this ( followed by a FU from the audience ) and closes , May God have mercy on us all ". Worst case scenario : Trump and his ilk emerge from bunkers to start anew.
Stephen DeMay
2020-02-11 21:15:38 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
To be clear the Chinese government promotes use of medical masks...in reality to prevent panic, I've seen reports that docs state a medical mask will not help against the virus. It's unknown how long the virus will live outside the body. I've seen references that it could live for upwards of three weeks. If that's true better start watching films you've been holding off on seeing.
i can forsee a Trumpian last address rto he nation in which he says, ' we're all coming together on this ( followed by a FU from the audience ) and closes , May God have mercy on us all ". Worst case scenario : Trump and his ilk emerge from bunkers to start anew.
just saw some vague reportsthat a handful of people outside china have ' recovered " but that doctors expect them to relapse. Instead of being at the top of the news it's buried .
Obviously the fake news reports from China are effective. The world and it's peoples should be on top of this . Preperations for isolation of all sorts of people should be underway what's happening : not a thing. Governments are waiting umntill it is in epedemic state on their doorstep before doing anything...then i will be too late.
I can easily envision several large population areas in China with tens of millions of peolpe being infected and the vast majority of them dying with the result that China nukes several areas killing off tens of millions in a Fail - Safe scenario. In the absence of meaningful reports of recoveries of huge numbers of people I see the Chin " hospitals" as stop offs to the crematoria or holes in the ground.
You'll know it's end days time when Trump is on TV stating " there's nothing to fear " or " be calm ".
Asshole Americans either could not care less or think it's the flu. I'm looking for more signs of trouble with an eye to the Diamond Princess to letme know how deadly this is, I already know it's highly contageous.
I can see Trump trying to brush this off to the side to keep world trade flowing.
Ungraceful Biped
2020-02-12 02:25:17 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
To be clear the Chinese government promotes use of medical masks...in reality to prevent panic, I've seen reports that docs state a medical mask will not help against the virus. It's unknown how long the virus will live outside the body. I've seen references that it could live for upwards of three weeks. If that's true better start watching films you've been holding off on seeing.
i can forsee a Trumpian last address rto he nation in which he says, ' we're all coming together on this ( followed by a FU from the audience ) and closes , May God have mercy on us all ". Worst case scenario : Trump and his ilk emerge from bunkers to start anew.
just saw some vague reportsthat a handful of people outside china have ' recovered " but that doctors expect them to relapse. Instead of being at the top of the news it's buried .
Obviously the fake news reports from China are effective. The world and it's peoples should be on top of this . Preperations for isolation of all sorts of people should be underway what's happening : not a thing. Governments are waiting umntill it is in epedemic state on their doorstep before doing anything...then i will be too late.
I can easily envision several large population areas in China with tens of millions of peolpe being infected and the vast majority of them dying with the result that China nukes several areas killing off tens of millions in a Fail - Safe scenario. In the absence of meaningful reports of recoveries of huge numbers of people I see the Chin " hospitals" as stop offs to the crematoria or holes in the ground.
You'll know it's end days time when Trump is on TV stating " there's nothing to fear " or " be calm ".
Asshole Americans either could not care less or think it's the flu. I'm looking for more signs of trouble with an eye to the Diamond Princess to letme know how deadly this is, I already know it's highly contageous.
I can see Trump trying to brush this off to the side to keep world trade flowing.
He already announced that the coronavirus will disappear when "the weather warms up" (you can look it up)
Stephen DeMay
2020-02-12 14:00:19 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
To be clear the Chinese government promotes use of medical masks...in reality to prevent panic, I've seen reports that docs state a medical mask will not help against the virus. It's unknown how long the virus will live outside the body. I've seen references that it could live for upwards of three weeks. If that's true better start watching films you've been holding off on seeing.
i can forsee a Trumpian last address rto he nation in which he says, ' we're all coming together on this ( followed by a FU from the audience ) and closes , May God have mercy on us all ". Worst case scenario : Trump and his ilk emerge from bunkers to start anew.
just saw some vague reportsthat a handful of people outside china have ' recovered " but that doctors expect them to relapse. Instead of being at the top of the news it's buried .
Obviously the fake news reports from China are effective. The world and it's peoples should be on top of this . Preperations for isolation of all sorts of people should be underway what's happening : not a thing. Governments are waiting umntill it is in epedemic state on their doorstep before doing anything...then i will be too late.
I can easily envision several large population areas in China with tens of millions of peolpe being infected and the vast majority of them dying with the result that China nukes several areas killing off tens of millions in a Fail - Safe scenario. In the absence of meaningful reports of recoveries of huge numbers of people I see the Chin " hospitals" as stop offs to the crematoria or holes in the ground.
You'll know it's end days time when Trump is on TV stating " there's nothing to fear " or " be calm ".
Asshole Americans either could not care less or think it's the flu. I'm looking for more signs of trouble with an eye to the Diamond Princess to letme know how deadly this is, I already know it's highly contageous.
I can see Trump trying to brush this off to the side to keep world trade flowing.
He already announced that the coronavirus will disappear when "the weather warms up" (you can look it up)
April is a real scorcher for sure. He'll be munching on fortune cookies next.
Stephen DeMay
2020-02-13 18:16:30 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
To be clear the Chinese government promotes use of medical masks...in reality to prevent panic, I've seen reports that docs state a medical mask will not help against the virus. It's unknown how long the virus will live outside the body. I've seen references that it could live for upwards of three weeks. If that's true better start watching films you've been holding off on seeing.
i can forsee a Trumpian last address rto he nation in which he says, ' we're all coming together on this ( followed by a FU from the audience ) and closes , May God have mercy on us all ". Worst case scenario : Trump and his ilk emerge from bunkers to start anew.
just saw some vague reportsthat a handful of people outside china have ' recovered " but that doctors expect them to relapse. Instead of being at the top of the news it's buried .
Obviously the fake news reports from China are effective. The world and it's peoples should be on top of this . Preperations for isolation of all sorts of people should be underway what's happening : not a thing. Governments are waiting umntill it is in epedemic state on their doorstep before doing anything...then i will be too late.
I can easily envision several large population areas in China with tens of millions of peolpe being infected and the vast majority of them dying with the result that China nukes several areas killing off tens of millions in a Fail - Safe scenario. In the absence of meaningful reports of recoveries of huge numbers of people I see the Chin " hospitals" as stop offs to the crematoria or holes in the ground.
You'll know it's end days time when Trump is on TV stating " there's nothing to fear " or " be calm ".
Asshole Americans either could not care less or think it's the flu. I'm looking for more signs of trouble with an eye to the Diamond Princess to letme know how deadly this is, I already know it's highly contageous.
I can see Trump trying to brush this off to the side to keep world trade flowing.
He already announced that the coronavirus will disappear when "the weather warms up" (you can look it up)
April is a real scorcher for sure. He'll be munching on fortune cookies next.
last report from the Diamond Princess is 40 new cases a day . Now about 10% of the passengers/crew are down in an enviornment in which people are all but locked down and the area can be cleaned and recleaned.. Still not a bit of information on how long a person can stay infected before dying or maybe getting better. Since there is not nor will there likely be any vaccine the effects may depend on general health...but maybe not. I find it weird that the news on the 2020 Olympic games scheduled for Japan are questioning if Chinese atheletes should attend...the news should be when is it appropriate to cancel the event. Chins now have about 15 cities locked down across the country. In the US Chin restaurants will be the first hit with closings. Then the
Jesus Freaks will start walking around with Trump saves signs. Won't be long before Trump begins fielding/avoiding questions about imports and quaranteen The image of raucous Trump rallies in the midst of possibly the biggest plague in world history is over the top crazy. I can see Trump in a bio suit telling his people not to let a little coughing spell keep you from the poling booths. The domino effect of Chin factory closings should begin in about a month. I've seen that warm/hot weateher is thought to be something viruses don't like, well see on that one.Seen reports that the virus can live as long as 24 days outside a human body...that can be a marketing plus for older stock. No matter what eventually happens things will get much, much, much worse in the coming months.
Stephen DeMay
2020-02-14 16:30:30 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
To be clear the Chinese government promotes use of medical masks...in reality to prevent panic, I've seen reports that docs state a medical mask will not help against the virus. It's unknown how long the virus will live outside the body. I've seen references that it could live for upwards of three weeks. If that's true better start watching films you've been holding off on seeing.
i can forsee a Trumpian last address rto he nation in which he says, ' we're all coming together on this ( followed by a FU from the audience ) and closes , May God have mercy on us all ". Worst case scenario : Trump and his ilk emerge from bunkers to start anew.
just saw some vague reportsthat a handful of people outside china have ' recovered " but that doctors expect them to relapse. Instead of being at the top of the news it's buried .
Obviously the fake news reports from China are effective. The world and it's peoples should be on top of this . Preperations for isolation of all sorts of people should be underway what's happening : not a thing. Governments are waiting umntill it is in epedemic state on their doorstep before doing anything...then i will be too late.
I can easily envision several large population areas in China with tens of millions of peolpe being infected and the vast majority of them dying with the result that China nukes several areas killing off tens of millions in a Fail - Safe scenario. In the absence of meaningful reports of recoveries of huge numbers of people I see the Chin " hospitals" as stop offs to the crematoria or holes in the ground.
You'll know it's end days time when Trump is on TV stating " there's nothing to fear " or " be calm ".
Asshole Americans either could not care less or think it's the flu. I'm looking for more signs of trouble with an eye to the Diamond Princess to letme know how deadly this is, I already know it's highly contageous.
I can see Trump trying to brush this off to the side to keep world trade flowing.
He already announced that the coronavirus will disappear when "the weather warms up" (you can look it up)
April is a real scorcher for sure. He'll be munching on fortune cookies next.
last report from the Diamond Princess is 40 new cases a day . Now about 10% of the passengers/crew are down in an enviornment in which people are all but locked down and the area can be cleaned and recleaned.. Still not a bit of information on how long a person can stay infected before dying or maybe getting better. Since there is not nor will there likely be any vaccine the effects may depend on general health...but maybe not. I find it weird that the news on the 2020 Olympic games scheduled for Japan are questioning if Chinese atheletes should attend...the news should be when is it appropriate to cancel the event. Chins now have about 15 cities locked down across the country. In the US Chin restaurants will be the first hit with closings. Then the
Jesus Freaks will start walking around with Trump saves signs. Won't be long before Trump begins fielding/avoiding questions about imports and quaranteen The image of raucous Trump rallies in the midst of possibly the biggest plague in world history is over the top crazy. I can see Trump in a bio suit telling his people not to let a little coughing spell keep you from the poling booths. The domino effect of Chin factory closings should begin in about a month. I've seen that warm/hot weateher is thought to be something viruses don't like, well see on that one.Seen reports that the virus can live as long as 24 days outside a human body...that can be a marketing plus for older stock. No matter what eventually happens things will get much, much, much worse in the coming months.
Chins have knocked off a hundred deaths due to " double reporting " ...just the sort of tactic to convince the gullible that they are puting out real numbers. These infections began in mid January...still no reports of recoveries...hard to believe. The pictures of a newly constructed " hospital " are weird. Looks like a domed baseball field. Probably a one size fits all pre fab job. Read that the windows in hospitals have bars and the room doors can't be opened from the inside. Chinese menu : boiled rice, veggies and death. Now about 1,700 ( reported ) health care workers infected...no work no eat ( or live ) . It's OK if the Jap Olympices go ahead but all the events should be virus related like who can last longest wearing an infected facemask...be the first in your neighborhood to wear a medical mask/get infected.
Gallows humor should be ala mode...after Trump residency should be an easy fit.
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
To be clear the Chinese government promotes use of medical masks...in reality to prevent panic, I've seen reports that docs state a medical mask will not help against the virus. It's unknown how long the virus will live outside the body. I've seen references that it could live for upwards of three weeks. If that's true better start watching films you've been holding off on seeing.
i can forsee a Trumpian last address rto he nation in which he says, ' we're all coming together on this ( followed by a FU from the audience ) and closes , May God have mercy on us all ". Worst case scenario : Trump and his ilk emerge from bunkers to start anew.
just saw some vague reportsthat a handful of people outside china have ' recovered " but that doctors expect them to relapse. Instead of being at the top of the news it's buried .
Obviously the fake news reports from China are effective. The world and it's peoples should be on top of this . Preperations for isolation of all sorts of people should be underway what's happening : not a thing. Governments are waiting umntill it is in epedemic state on their doorstep before doing anything...then i will be too late.
I can easily envision several large population areas in China with tens of millions of peolpe being infected and the vast majority of them dying with the result that China nukes several areas killing off tens of millions in a Fail - Safe scenario. In the absence of meaningful reports of recoveries of huge numbers of people I see the Chin " hospitals" as stop offs to the crematoria or holes in the ground.
You'll know it's end days time when Trump is on TV stating " there's nothing to fear " or " be calm ".
Asshole Americans either could not care less or think it's the flu. I'm looking for more signs of trouble with an eye to the Diamond Princess to letme know how deadly this is, I already know it's highly contageous.
I can see Trump trying to brush this off to the side to keep world trade flowing.
He already announced that the coronavirus will disappear when "the weather warms up" (you can look it up)
April is a real scorcher for sure. He'll be munching on fortune cookies next.
last report from the Diamond Princess is 40 new cases a day . Now about 10% of the passengers/crew are down in an enviornment in which people are all but locked down and the area can be cleaned and recleaned.. Still not a bit of information on how long a person can stay infected before dying or maybe getting better. Since there is not nor will there likely be any vaccine the effects may depend on general health...but maybe not. I find it weird that the news on the 2020 Olympic games scheduled for Japan are questioning if Chinese atheletes should attend...the news should be when is it appropriate to cancel the event. Chins now have about 15 cities locked down across the country. In the US Chin restaurants will be the first hit with closings. Then the
Jesus Freaks will start walking around with Trump saves signs. Won't be long before Trump begins fielding/avoiding questions about imports and quaranteen The image of raucous Trump rallies in the midst of possibly the biggest plague in world history is over the top crazy. I can see Trump in a bio suit telling his people not to let a little coughing spell keep you from the poling booths. The domino effect of Chin factory closings should begin in about a month. I've seen that warm/hot weateher is thought to be something viruses don't like, well see on that one.Seen reports that the virus can live as long as 24 days outside a human body...that can be a marketing plus for older stock. No matter what eventually happens things will get much, much, much worse in the coming months.
Chins have knocked off a hundred deaths due to " double reporting " ...just the sort of tactic to convince the gullible that they are puting out real numbers. These infections began in mid January...still no reports of recoveries...hard to believe. The pictures of a newly constructed " hospital " are weird. Looks like a domed baseball field. Probably a one size fits all pre fab job. Read that the windows in hospitals have bars and the room doors can't be opened from the inside. Chinese menu : boiled rice, veggies and death. Now about 1,700 ( reported ) health care workers infected...no work no eat ( or live ) . It's OK if the Jap Olympices go ahead but all the events should be virus related like who can last longest wearing an infected facemask...be the first in your neighborhood to wear a medical mask/get infected.
Gallows humor should be ala mode...after Trump residency should be an easy fit.
Latest piece of Chin propaganda is a video of quarateened patients " dancing " with bio hazard suited medical personnel joining in. Looks like a scene from a low budget 70's type horror flick showing asylum crazies on the loose.. Saw a it about those medical masks. Apparently don't work when inside layer gets moist from exhalations. One Chin company got caught for putting tissue paper in the masks instead of filtrering material. Also saw an estimate that about 15% of infected will die whicactually is manageable in terms of effects on world...but that does not take into consideration mutations of the virus. Seems to me just too many Chins to keep this from constantly spreading. As usual the animals get the worst of it.
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
To be clear the Chinese government promotes use of medical masks...in reality to prevent panic, I've seen reports that docs state a medical mask will not help against the virus. It's unknown how long the virus will live outside the body. I've seen references that it could live for upwards of three weeks. If that's true better start watching films you've been holding off on seeing.
i can forsee a Trumpian last address rto he nation in which he says, ' we're all coming together on this ( followed by a FU from the audience ) and closes , May God have mercy on us all ". Worst case scenario : Trump and his ilk emerge from bunkers to start anew.
just saw some vague reportsthat a handful of people outside china have ' recovered " but that doctors expect them to relapse. Instead of being at the top of the news it's buried .
Obviously the fake news reports from China are effective. The world and it's peoples should be on top of this . Preperations for isolation of all sorts of people should be underway what's happening : not a thing. Governments are waiting umntill it is in epedemic state on their doorstep before doing anything...then i will be too late.
I can easily envision several large population areas in China with tens of millions of peolpe being infected and the vast majority of them dying with the result that China nukes several areas killing off tens of millions in a Fail - Safe scenario. In the absence of meaningful reports of recoveries of huge numbers of people I see the Chin " hospitals" as stop offs to the crematoria or holes in the ground.
You'll know it's end days time when Trump is on TV stating " there's nothing to fear " or " be calm ".
Asshole Americans either could not care less or think it's the flu. I'm looking for more signs of trouble with an eye to the Diamond Princess to letme know how deadly this is, I already know it's highly contageous.
I can see Trump trying to brush this off to the side to keep world trade flowing.
He already announced that the coronavirus will disappear when "the weather warms up" (you can look it up)
April is a real scorcher for sure. He'll be munching on fortune cookies next.
last report from the Diamond Princess is 40 new cases a day . Now about 10% of the passengers/crew are down in an enviornment in which people are all but locked down and the area can be cleaned and recleaned.. Still not a bit of information on how long a person can stay infected before dying or maybe getting better. Since there is not nor will there likely be any vaccine the effects may depend on general health...but maybe not. I find it weird that the news on the 2020 Olympic games scheduled for Japan are questioning if Chinese atheletes should attend...the news should be when is it appropriate to cancel the event. Chins now have about 15 cities locked down across the country. In the US Chin restaurants will be the first hit with closings. Then the
Jesus Freaks will start walking around with Trump saves signs. Won't be long before Trump begins fielding/avoiding questions about imports and quaranteen The image of raucous Trump rallies in the midst of possibly the biggest plague in world history is over the top crazy. I can see Trump in a bio suit telling his people not to let a little coughing spell keep you from the poling booths. The domino effect of Chin factory closings should begin in about a month. I've seen that warm/hot weateher is thought to be something viruses don't like, well see on that one.Seen reports that the virus can live as long as 24 days outside a human body...that can be a marketing plus for older stock. No matter what eventually happens things will get much, much, much worse in the coming months.
Chins have knocked off a hundred deaths due to " double reporting " ...just the sort of tactic to convince the gullible that they are puting out real numbers. These infections began in mid January...still no reports of recoveries...hard to believe. The pictures of a newly constructed " hospital " are weird. Looks like a domed baseball field. Probably a one size fits all pre fab job. Read that the windows in hospitals have bars and the room doors can't be opened from the inside. Chinese menu : boiled rice, veggies and death. Now about 1,700 ( reported ) health care workers infected...no work no eat ( or live ) . It's OK if the Jap Olympices go ahead but all the events should be virus related like who can last longest wearing an infected facemask...be the first in your neighborhood to wear a medical mask/get infected.
Gallows humor should be ala mode...after Trump residency should be an easy fit.
Latest piece of Chin propaganda is a video of quarateened patients " dancing " with bio hazard suited medical personnel joining in. Looks like a scene from a low budget 70's type horror flick showing asylum crazies on the loose.. Saw a it about those medical masks. Apparently don't work when inside layer gets moist from exhalations. One Chin company got caught for putting tissue paper in the masks instead of filtrering material. Also saw an estimate that about 15% of infected will die whicactually is manageable in terms of effects on world...but that does not take into consideration mutations of the virus. Seems to me just too many Chins to keep this from constantly spreading. As usual the animals get the worst of it.
Among the many unanswered questions : are workers in the locked down areas ( now 50 -60 million ) going to factories and offices ? Strange to discover Valentine's Day is part of the Chinese culture . Sales down 95 %. Have not seen an update on the Diamond Princess for two days or more. The question is , Who lies more, Trump or the Chins ?
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
To be clear the Chinese government promotes use of medical masks...in reality to prevent panic, I've seen reports that docs state a medical mask will not help against the virus. It's unknown how long the virus will live outside the body. I've seen references that it could live for upwards of three weeks. If that's true better start watching films you've been holding off on seeing.
i can forsee a Trumpian last address rto he nation in which he says, ' we're all coming together on this ( followed by a FU from the audience ) and closes , May God have mercy on us all ". Worst case scenario : Trump and his ilk emerge from bunkers to start anew.
just saw some vague reportsthat a handful of people outside china have ' recovered " but that doctors expect them to relapse. Instead of being at the top of the news it's buried .
Obviously the fake news reports from China are effective. The world and it's peoples should be on top of this . Preperations for isolation of all sorts of people should be underway what's happening : not a thing. Governments are waiting umntill it is in epedemic state on their doorstep before doing anything...then i will be too late.
I can easily envision several large population areas in China with tens of millions of peolpe being infected and the vast majority of them dying with the result that China nukes several areas killing off tens of millions in a Fail - Safe scenario. In the absence of meaningful reports of recoveries of huge numbers of people I see the Chin " hospitals" as stop offs to the crematoria or holes in the ground.
You'll know it's end days time when Trump is on TV stating " there's nothing to fear " or " be calm ".
Asshole Americans either could not care less or think it's the flu. I'm looking for more signs of trouble with an eye to the Diamond Princess to letme know how deadly this is, I already know it's highly contageous.
I can see Trump trying to brush this off to the side to keep world trade flowing.
He already announced that the coronavirus will disappear when "the weather warms up" (you can look it up)
April is a real scorcher for sure. He'll be munching on fortune cookies next.
last report from the Diamond Princess is 40 new cases a day . Now about 10% of the passengers/crew are down in an enviornment in which people are all but locked down and the area can be cleaned and recleaned.. Still not a bit of information on how long a person can stay infected before dying or maybe getting better. Since there is not nor will there likely be any vaccine the effects may depend on general health...but maybe not. I find it weird that the news on the 2020 Olympic games scheduled for Japan are questioning if Chinese atheletes should attend...the news should be when is it appropriate to cancel the event. Chins now have about 15 cities locked down across the country. In the US Chin restaurants will be the first hit with closings. Then the
Jesus Freaks will start walking around with Trump saves signs. Won't be long before Trump begins fielding/avoiding questions about imports and quaranteen The image of raucous Trump rallies in the midst of possibly the biggest plague in world history is over the top crazy. I can see Trump in a bio suit telling his people not to let a little coughing spell keep you from the poling booths. The domino effect of Chin factory closings should begin in about a month. I've seen that warm/hot weateher is thought to be something viruses don't like, well see on that one.Seen reports that the virus can live as long as 24 days outside a human body...that can be a marketing plus for older stock. No matter what eventually happens things will get much, much, much worse in the coming months.
Chins have knocked off a hundred deaths due to " double reporting " ...just the sort of tactic to convince the gullible that they are puting out real numbers. These infections began in mid January...still no reports of recoveries...hard to believe. The pictures of a newly constructed " hospital " are weird. Looks like a domed baseball field. Probably a one size fits all pre fab job. Read that the windows in hospitals have bars and the room doors can't be opened from the inside. Chinese menu : boiled rice, veggies and death. Now about 1,700 ( reported ) health care workers infected...no work no eat ( or live ) . It's OK if the Jap Olympices go ahead but all the events should be virus related like who can last longest wearing an infected facemask...be the first in your neighborhood to wear a medical mask/get infected.
Gallows humor should be ala mode...after Trump residency should be an easy fit.
Latest piece of Chin propaganda is a video of quarateened patients " dancing " with bio hazard suited medical personnel joining in. Looks like a scene from a low budget 70's type horror flick showing asylum crazies on the loose.. Saw a it about those medical masks. Apparently don't work when inside layer gets moist from exhalations. One Chin company got caught for putting tissue paper in the masks instead of filtrering material. Also saw an estimate that about 15% of infected will die whicactually is manageable in terms of effects on world...but that does not take into consideration mutations of the virus. Seems to me just too many Chins to keep this from constantly spreading. As usual the animals get the worst of it.
Among the many unanswered questions : are workers in the locked down areas ( now 50 -60 million ) going to factories and offices ? Strange to discover Valentine's Day is part of the Chinese culture . Sales down 95 %. Have not seen an update on the Diamond Princess for two days or more. The question is , Who lies more, Trump or the Chins ?
Trump moved ahead of the Chins just told Hiraldo Rivera!!! Chinese government is handling the problem in a professional way. JUst off a rewatch of The Curse ( 1987 ) with Claude Akins who is the Southerner's Vincent Price. Liked irony of the close having government official telling the public disease is not a concern.
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
To be clear the Chinese government promotes use of medical masks...in reality to prevent panic, I've seen reports that docs state a medical mask will not help against the virus. It's unknown how long the virus will live outside the body. I've seen references that it could live for upwards of three weeks. If that's true better start watching films you've been holding off on seeing.
i can forsee a Trumpian last address rto he nation in which he says, ' we're all coming together on this ( followed by a FU from the audience ) and closes , May God have mercy on us all ". Worst case scenario : Trump and his ilk emerge from bunkers to start anew.
just saw some vague reportsthat a handful of people outside china have ' recovered " but that doctors expect them to relapse. Instead of being at the top of the news it's buried .
Obviously the fake news reports from China are effective. The world and it's peoples should be on top of this . Preperations for isolation of all sorts of people should be underway what's happening : not a thing. Governments are waiting umntill it is in epedemic state on their doorstep before doing anything...then i will be too late.
I can easily envision several large population areas in China with tens of millions of peolpe being infected and the vast majority of them dying with the result that China nukes several areas killing off tens of millions in a Fail - Safe scenario. In the absence of meaningful reports of recoveries of huge numbers of people I see the Chin " hospitals" as stop offs to the crematoria or holes in the ground.
You'll know it's end days time when Trump is on TV stating " there's nothing to fear " or " be calm ".
Asshole Americans either could not care less or think it's the flu. I'm looking for more signs of trouble with an eye to the Diamond Princess to letme know how deadly this is, I already know it's highly contageous.
I can see Trump trying to brush this off to the side to keep world trade flowing.
He already announced that the coronavirus will disappear when "the weather warms up" (you can look it up)
April is a real scorcher for sure. He'll be munching on fortune cookies next.
last report from the Diamond Princess is 40 new cases a day . Now about 10% of the passengers/crew are down in an enviornment in which people are all but locked down and the area can be cleaned and recleaned.. Still not a bit of information on how long a person can stay infected before dying or maybe getting better. Since there is not nor will there likely be any vaccine the effects may depend on general health...but maybe not. I find it weird that the news on the 2020 Olympic games scheduled for Japan are questioning if Chinese atheletes should attend...the news should be when is it appropriate to cancel the event. Chins now have about 15 cities locked down across the country. In the US Chin restaurants will be the first hit with closings. Then the
Jesus Freaks will start walking around with Trump saves signs. Won't be long before Trump begins fielding/avoiding questions about imports and quaranteen The image of raucous Trump rallies in the midst of possibly the biggest plague in world history is over the top crazy. I can see Trump in a bio suit telling his people not to let a little coughing spell keep you from the poling booths. The domino effect of Chin factory closings should begin in about a month. I've seen that warm/hot weateher is thought to be something viruses don't like, well see on that one.Seen reports that the virus can live as long as 24 days outside a human body...that can be a marketing plus for older stock. No matter what eventually happens things will get much, much, much worse in the coming months.
Chins have knocked off a hundred deaths due to " double reporting " ...just the sort of tactic to convince the gullible that they are puting out real numbers. These infections began in mid January...still no reports of recoveries...hard to believe. The pictures of a newly constructed " hospital " are weird. Looks like a domed baseball field. Probably a one size fits all pre fab job. Read that the windows in hospitals have bars and the room doors can't be opened from the inside. Chinese menu : boiled rice, veggies and death. Now about 1,700 ( reported ) health care workers infected...no work no eat ( or live ) . It's OK if the Jap Olympices go ahead but all the events should be virus related like who can last longest wearing an infected facemask...be the first in your neighborhood to wear a medical mask/get infected.
Gallows humor should be ala mode...after Trump residency should be an easy fit.
Latest piece of Chin propaganda is a video of quarateened patients " dancing " with bio hazard suited medical personnel joining in. Looks like a scene from a low budget 70's type horror flick showing asylum crazies on the loose.. Saw a it about those medical masks. Apparently don't work when inside layer gets moist from exhalations. One Chin company got caught for putting tissue paper in the masks instead of filtrering material. Also saw an estimate that about 15% of infected will die whicactually is manageable in terms of effects on world...but that does not take into consideration mutations of the virus. Seems to me just too many Chins to keep this from constantly spreading. As usual the animals get the worst of it.
Among the many unanswered questions : are workers in the locked down areas ( now 50 -60 million ) going to factories and offices ? Strange to discover Valentine's Day is part of the Chinese culture . Sales down 95 %. Have not seen an update on the Diamond Princess for two days or more. The question is , Who lies more, Trump or the Chins ?
Trump moved ahead of the Chins just told Hiraldo Rivera!!! Chinese government is handling the problem in a professional way. JUst off a rewatch of The Curse ( 1987 ) with Claude Akins who is the Southerner's Vincent Price. Liked irony of the close having government official telling the public disease is not a concern.
For the first time I'm seeing reports of recoveries. That and the, even if the numbers are totally bogus, few reported death indicate this is just a bad flu.
Stephen DeMay
2020-02-12 13:57:42 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
To be clear the Chinese government promotes use of medical masks...in reality to prevent panic, I've seen reports that docs state a medical mask will not help against the virus. It's unknown how long the virus will live outside the body. I've seen references that it could live for upwards of three weeks. If that's true better start watching films you've been holding off on seeing.
i can forsee a Trumpian last address rto he nation in which he says, ' we're all coming together on this ( followed by a FU from the audience ) and closes , May God have mercy on us all ". Worst case scenario : Trump and his ilk emerge from bunkers to start anew.
just saw some vague reportsthat a handful of people outside china have ' recovered " but that doctors expect them to relapse. Instead of being at the top of the news it's buried .
Obviously the fake news reports from China are effective. The world and it's peoples should be on top of this . Preperations for isolation of all sorts of people should be underway what's happening : not a thing. Governments are waiting umntill it is in epedemic state on their doorstep before doing anything...then i will be too late.
I can easily envision several large population areas in China with tens of millions of peolpe being infected and the vast majority of them dying with the result that China nukes several areas killing off tens of millions in a Fail - Safe scenario. In the absence of meaningful reports of recoveries of huge numbers of people I see the Chin " hospitals" as stop offs to the crematoria or holes in the ground.
You'll know it's end days time when Trump is on TV stating " there's nothing to fear " or " be calm ".
Asshole Americans either could not care less or think it's the flu. I'm looking for more signs of trouble with an eye to the Diamond Princess to letme know how deadly this is, I already know it's highly contageous.
I can see Trump trying to brush this off to the side to keep world trade flowing.
Cases continue to multiply on the Diamond Princess tho I would think passengers are holed up in their cabinns and the crew is probably cleaning everything in sight non stop. Only abut 4 people seem to be dying at ths point but nobody's recovered ( even for a while )as yet 50/50 everybody out of about 4,000 on board will be infected. Where's Charton Heston ?
Stephen DeMay
2020-03-19 01:07:14 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
moviePig
2020-03-19 02:16:20 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
You do know those "artificial scarcities" you apparently despise are
caused by people who "lay in an enormous amount" and then "add more"...
Stephen DeMay
2020-03-19 19:16:27 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
You do know those "artificial scarcities" you apparently despise are
caused by people who "lay in an enormous amount" and then "add more"...
`If, for whatever good reason, you need, that is need,enough product to withstand a " 2 per customer limit " for some open ended time not to be pro active is negligence. At present schools are closed and will probably not reopen this school year. All restaurants, bars, clubs, movies and theaters are closed indefinately in the NYC greater metro area. Walmart, due to their massive buying power is the only store/super market that is able to restock animal food. Even the new super Walmart I discovered, by far the biggest one floor square footage store I've seen is out of paper products and inexpensive cuts of beef
I've cleaned out a Shop - Rite ( forget my local Stop and Shop ) only left the over priced items at a Target and nearly depleted the WalMart of packaged canned dog food, bagged cat food and litter. Without the Walmart I'd be far from set as to weathering whatever public storm is coming down the road.
In Jersey this panic buying began on Friday I did not find out until Tuesday and have made up for lost time. To try to go against what may be a tidal wave is naive at best. Total haul in three days : 1500 pounds of animal food 700 pounds of litter to add to the 800 pounds I already had. If I do not need all this I'll set it aside for the super hurricane(s ) that are sure to come as sure as shootin'.
Stephen DeMay
2020-03-20 19:21:01 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
You do know those "artificial scarcities" you apparently despise are
caused by people who "lay in an enormous amount" and then "add more"...
`If, for whatever good reason, you need, that is need,enough product to withstand a " 2 per customer limit " for some open ended time not to be pro active is negligence. At present schools are closed and will probably not reopen this school year. All restaurants, bars, clubs, movies and theaters are closed indefinately in the NYC greater metro area. Walmart, due to their massive buying power is the only store/super market that is able to restock animal food. Even the new super Walmart I discovered, by far the biggest one floor square footage store I've seen is out of paper products and inexpensive cuts of beef
I've cleaned out a Shop - Rite ( forget my local Stop and Shop ) only left the over priced items at a Target and nearly depleted the WalMart of packaged canned dog food, bagged cat food and litter. Without the Walmart I'd be far from set as to weathering whatever public storm is coming down the road.
In Jersey this panic buying began on Friday I did not find out until Tuesday and have made up for lost time. To try to go against what may be a tidal wave is naive at best. Total haul in three days : 1500 pounds of animal food 700 pounds of litter to add to the 800 pounds I already had. If I do not need all this I'll set it aside for the super hurricane(s ) that are sure to come as sure as shootin'.
Manhattan is the epicenter for the virus due to the infusion of people from other areas and population density. I'm having to revise my estimate of the impact of the virus for several reasons : tho still not a " fatal " illness at least not unless it mutates , government response has been draconian...but it won't help much.
In Whuan everything stopped : people in and out of the city, offices, factories as well as closing schools and keeping people indoors with government food deliveries.
In Manhattan many tens of thousands of commuters in packed buses and trains are in and out five days a week. Millions of people in NYC are at offices and factories. No possibility of the virus not spreading. On Thursday the NYC mayor declared that the number of infected exploded since Tuesday. In China anyone leaving home gets mandatory testing.
Italy is prepared to lockdown everything so many people have died.
The virus will spread from Manhattan to the entire country, especially as symptoms will not show for 4 or 5 days.
I suspect the real reason for the measures that have been implemented in my area ( some stores have already instituted a 50 person in the store maximum ) is to avoid hospitals being overwhelmed by people wanting treatment.
Turns out I was correct in my initial assessment of the problem ( if I had still held stocks I would have sold everything in late January...ironic that the NY stock exchange Dow hit an all time high in late February.)
Dow is now down 30%, figures to drop at least another 10 % . A long term depression with closures of places of business is possible.
Given the open society the mandatory testing of everybody seems unlikely and even so just a few carriers could infect many people already tested.
Trump's failure to implement stringent measures in January/February and what now seems, atbest a serious recession, will be his legacy and my opinion of his chances of re-election have gone from excellent to nil...even Sanders would beat him.
The Stock market will respond to the spread or containment of the illness with Dow under 10,000 a real possibility as industry may be forced to cut back on letting people operate in large numbers in small spaces.
Irony is if the illness was just allowed to run its course with just government intervention on increases of available medical services the ultimate effect on the economy might be less than what will be done.
Things will really be bad when I use the respirator on shopping trips.
I'll be back at Wal Mart on Tuesday, believe it or not the store restocks every day... if product is available. If I see that weekend panic buying has further depleted available goods I'll continue to stock up, if a 2 per item limit is imposed I'll hit several stores as four or five are in the same immediate location or are on the route.
I must be fed.
Plague has been always included in the outlook for the dystopia to come. Trump 's portrait ( with that holy man sky blue , burst of light background ) may be the iconic image that comes to peoples' minds when the topic is raised...Will the Jesus freaks reclassify him as Satan or accept his blaming the Democrats for the whole mess ? China and Trump...perfect together.
Stephen DeMay
2020-03-20 21:06:03 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
You do know those "artificial scarcities" you apparently despise are
caused by people who "lay in an enormous amount" and then "add more"...
`If, for whatever good reason, you need, that is need,enough product to withstand a " 2 per customer limit " for some open ended time not to be pro active is negligence. At present schools are closed and will probably not reopen this school year. All restaurants, bars, clubs, movies and theaters are closed indefinately in the NYC greater metro area. Walmart, due to their massive buying power is the only store/super market that is able to restock animal food. Even the new super Walmart I discovered, by far the biggest one floor square footage store I've seen is out of paper products and inexpensive cuts of beef
I've cleaned out a Shop - Rite ( forget my local Stop and Shop ) only left the over priced items at a Target and nearly depleted the WalMart of packaged canned dog food, bagged cat food and litter. Without the Walmart I'd be far from set as to weathering whatever public storm is coming down the road.
In Jersey this panic buying began on Friday I did not find out until Tuesday and have made up for lost time. To try to go against what may be a tidal wave is naive at best. Total haul in three days : 1500 pounds of animal food 700 pounds of litter to add to the 800 pounds I already had. If I do not need all this I'll set it aside for the super hurricane(s ) that are sure to come as sure as shootin'.
Manhattan is the epicenter for the virus due to the infusion of people from other areas and population density. I'm having to revise my estimate of the impact of the virus for several reasons : tho still not a " fatal " illness at least not unless it mutates , government response has been draconian...but it won't help much.
In Whuan everything stopped : people in and out of the city, offices, factories as well as closing schools and keeping people indoors with government food deliveries.
In Manhattan many tens of thousands of commuters in packed buses and trains are in and out five days a week. Millions of people in NYC are at offices and factories. No possibility of the virus not spreading. On Thursday the NYC mayor declared that the number of infected exploded since Tuesday. In China anyone leaving home gets mandatory testing.
Italy is prepared to lockdown everything so many people have died.
The virus will spread from Manhattan to the entire country, especially as symptoms will not show for 4 or 5 days.
I suspect the real reason for the measures that have been implemented in my area ( some stores have already instituted a 50 person in the store maximum ) is to avoid hospitals being overwhelmed by people wanting treatment.
Turns out I was correct in my initial assessment of the problem ( if I had still held stocks I would have sold everything in late January...ironic that the NY stock exchange Dow hit an all time high in late February.)
Dow is now down 30%, figures to drop at least another 10 % . A long term depression with closures of places of business is possible.
Given the open society the mandatory testing of everybody seems unlikely and even so just a few carriers could infect many people already tested.
Trump's failure to implement stringent measures in January/February and what now seems, atbest a serious recession, will be his legacy and my opinion of his chances of re-election have gone from excellent to nil...even Sanders would beat him.
The Stock market will respond to the spread or containment of the illness with Dow under 10,000 a real possibility as industry may be forced to cut back on letting people operate in large numbers in small spaces.
Irony is if the illness was just allowed to run its course with just government intervention on increases of available medical services the ultimate effect on the economy might be less than what will be done.
Things will really be bad when I use the respirator on shopping trips.
I'll be back at Wal Mart on Tuesday, believe it or not the store restocks every day... if product is available. If I see that weekend panic buying has further depleted available goods I'll continue to stock up, if a 2 per item limit is imposed I'll hit several stores as four or five are in the same immediate location or are on the route.
I must be fed.
Plague has been always included in the outlook for the dystopia to come. Trump 's portrait ( with that holy man sky blue , burst of light background ) may be the iconic image that comes to peoples' minds when the topic is raised...Will the Jesus freaks reclassify him as Satan or accept his blaming the Democrats for the whole mess ? China and Trump...perfect together.
`THe best wat to have dealt with this and maybe still the best tho not as effective as it would have been two weeks ago is to isolate Manhattan. Sounds like sci - fi stuff but possible. Residents could continue to work and the city just accept a lot of sick people or businesses could be required to close. Cetain critical areas of business could remain open but these people would have to live on site and not mix with the general population. Food colud be brought in in any number of ways. If this isolation, business lock down were to be instituted for one month Manhattan would be clear and the mess over. keep Manhattan open and the entire country is likely to have an ever sustaining cycle of infection and re - infection with choices of how to deal with it made locally , at least in part.
Not to close Manhattan given what has taken place is opening the door to what will be seen as another massive mistake by government akin to what happened in the 30's.
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
You do know those "artificial scarcities" you apparently despise are
caused by people who "lay in an enormous amount" and then "add more"...
`If, for whatever good reason, you need, that is need,enough product to withstand a " 2 per customer limit " for some open ended time not to be pro active is negligence. At present schools are closed and will probably not reopen this school year. All restaurants, bars, clubs, movies and theaters are closed indefinately in the NYC greater metro area. Walmart, due to their massive buying power is the only store/super market that is able to restock animal food. Even the new super Walmart I discovered, by far the biggest one floor square footage store I've seen is out of paper products and inexpensive cuts of beef
I've cleaned out a Shop - Rite ( forget my local Stop and Shop ) only left the over priced items at a Target and nearly depleted the WalMart of packaged canned dog food, bagged cat food and litter. Without the Walmart I'd be far from set as to weathering whatever public storm is coming down the road.
In Jersey this panic buying began on Friday I did not find out until Tuesday and have made up for lost time. To try to go against what may be a tidal wave is naive at best. Total haul in three days : 1500 pounds of animal food 700 pounds of litter to add to the 800 pounds I already had. If I do not need all this I'll set it aside for the super hurricane(s ) that are sure to come as sure as shootin'.
Manhattan is the epicenter for the virus due to the infusion of people from other areas and population density. I'm having to revise my estimate of the impact of the virus for several reasons : tho still not a " fatal " illness at least not unless it mutates , government response has been draconian...but it won't help much.
In Whuan everything stopped : people in and out of the city, offices, factories as well as closing schools and keeping people indoors with government food deliveries.
In Manhattan many tens of thousands of commuters in packed buses and trains are in and out five days a week. Millions of people in NYC are at offices and factories. No possibility of the virus not spreading. On Thursday the NYC mayor declared that the number of infected exploded since Tuesday. In China anyone leaving home gets mandatory testing.
Italy is prepared to lockdown everything so many people have died.
The virus will spread from Manhattan to the entire country, especially as symptoms will not show for 4 or 5 days.
I suspect the real reason for the measures that have been implemented in my area ( some stores have already instituted a 50 person in the store maximum ) is to avoid hospitals being overwhelmed by people wanting treatment.
Turns out I was correct in my initial assessment of the problem ( if I had still held stocks I would have sold everything in late January...ironic that the NY stock exchange Dow hit an all time high in late February.)
Dow is now down 30%, figures to drop at least another 10 % . A long term depression with closures of places of business is possible.
Given the open society the mandatory testing of everybody seems unlikely and even so just a few carriers could infect many people already tested.
Trump's failure to implement stringent measures in January/February and what now seems, atbest a serious recession, will be his legacy and my opinion of his chances of re-election have gone from excellent to nil...even Sanders would beat him.
The Stock market will respond to the spread or containment of the illness with Dow under 10,000 a real possibility as industry may be forced to cut back on letting people operate in large numbers in small spaces.
Irony is if the illness was just allowed to run its course with just government intervention on increases of available medical services the ultimate effect on the economy might be less than what will be done.
Things will really be bad when I use the respirator on shopping trips.
I'll be back at Wal Mart on Tuesday, believe it or not the store restocks every day... if product is available. If I see that weekend panic buying has further depleted available goods I'll continue to stock up, if a 2 per item limit is imposed I'll hit several stores as four or five are in the same immediate location or are on the route.
I must be fed.
Plague has been always included in the outlook for the dystopia to come. Trump 's portrait ( with that holy man sky blue , burst of light background ) may be the iconic image that comes to peoples' minds when the topic is raised...Will the Jesus freaks reclassify him as Satan or accept his blaming the Democrats for the whole mess ? China and Trump...perfect together.
`THe best wat to have dealt with this and maybe still the best tho not as effective as it would have been two weeks ago is to isolate Manhattan. Sounds like sci - fi stuff but possible. Residents could continue to work and the city just accept a lot of sick people or businesses could be required to close. Cetain critical areas of business could remain open but these people would have to live on site and not mix with the general population. Food colud be brought in in any number of ways. If this isolation, business lock down were to be instituted for one month Manhattan would be clear and the mess over. keep Manhattan open and the entire country is likely to have an ever sustaining cycle of infection and re - infection with choices of how to deal with it made locally , at least in part.
Not to close Manhattan given what has taken place is opening the door to what will be seen as another massive mistake by government akin to what happened in the 30's.
Praise de lawd !. Governor's of NY and NJ have just ordered the closure of all non essential businesses and probition of any group of people meeting.
Two questions : is it legal and how quickly will the virus be contained.
Should be of interest to see Dow reaction on Monday...will probably tank as economy is taking hits because of a flu bug.
I'll probably stay clear of making any changes as metaphysics will cause me to lose whatever I do.
Italians seem more vulnerable than Chins to dying.
Should be lots of clashes between adults with no where to go and nothing to do and the coppers.
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2020-03-21 17:47:51 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
You do know those "artificial scarcities" you apparently despise are
caused by people who "lay in an enormous amount" and then "add more"...
`If, for whatever good reason, you need, that is need,enough product to withstand a " 2 per customer limit " for some open ended time not to be pro active is negligence. At present schools are closed and will probably not reopen this school year. All restaurants, bars, clubs, movies and theaters are closed indefinately in the NYC greater metro area. Walmart, due to their massive buying power is the only store/super market that is able to restock animal food. Even the new super Walmart I discovered, by far the biggest one floor square footage store I've seen is out of paper products and inexpensive cuts of beef
I've cleaned out a Shop - Rite ( forget my local Stop and Shop ) only left the over priced items at a Target and nearly depleted the WalMart of packaged canned dog food, bagged cat food and litter. Without the Walmart I'd be far from set as to weathering whatever public storm is coming down the road.
In Jersey this panic buying began on Friday I did not find out until Tuesday and have made up for lost time. To try to go against what may be a tidal wave is naive at best. Total haul in three days : 1500 pounds of animal food 700 pounds of litter to add to the 800 pounds I already had. If I do not need all this I'll set it aside for the super hurricane(s ) that are sure to come as sure as shootin'.
Manhattan is the epicenter for the virus due to the infusion of people from other areas and population density. I'm having to revise my estimate of the impact of the virus for several reasons : tho still not a " fatal " illness at least not unless it mutates , government response has been draconian...but it won't help much.
In Whuan everything stopped : people in and out of the city, offices, factories as well as closing schools and keeping people indoors with government food deliveries.
In Manhattan many tens of thousands of commuters in packed buses and trains are in and out five days a week. Millions of people in NYC are at offices and factories. No possibility of the virus not spreading. On Thursday the NYC mayor declared that the number of infected exploded since Tuesday. In China anyone leaving home gets mandatory testing.
Italy is prepared to lockdown everything so many people have died.
The virus will spread from Manhattan to the entire country, especially as symptoms will not show for 4 or 5 days.
I suspect the real reason for the measures that have been implemented in my area ( some stores have already instituted a 50 person in the store maximum ) is to avoid hospitals being overwhelmed by people wanting treatment.
Turns out I was correct in my initial assessment of the problem ( if I had still held stocks I would have sold everything in late January...ironic that the NY stock exchange Dow hit an all time high in late February.)
Dow is now down 30%, figures to drop at least another 10 % . A long term depression with closures of places of business is possible.
Given the open society the mandatory testing of everybody seems unlikely and even so just a few carriers could infect many people already tested.
Trump's failure to implement stringent measures in January/February and what now seems, atbest a serious recession, will be his legacy and my opinion of his chances of re-election have gone from excellent to nil...even Sanders would beat him.
The Stock market will respond to the spread or containment of the illness with Dow under 10,000 a real possibility as industry may be forced to cut back on letting people operate in large numbers in small spaces.
Irony is if the illness was just allowed to run its course with just government intervention on increases of available medical services the ultimate effect on the economy might be less than what will be done.
Things will really be bad when I use the respirator on shopping trips.
I'll be back at Wal Mart on Tuesday, believe it or not the store restocks every day... if product is available. If I see that weekend panic buying has further depleted available goods I'll continue to stock up, if a 2 per item limit is imposed I'll hit several stores as four or five are in the same immediate location or are on the route.
I must be fed.
Plague has been always included in the outlook for the dystopia to come. Trump 's portrait ( with that holy man sky blue , burst of light background ) may be the iconic image that comes to peoples' minds when the topic is raised...Will the Jesus freaks reclassify him as Satan or accept his blaming the Democrats for the whole mess ? China and Trump...perfect together.
`THe best wat to have dealt with this and maybe still the best tho not as effective as it would have been two weeks ago is to isolate Manhattan. Sounds like sci - fi stuff but possible. Residents could continue to work and the city just accept a lot of sick people or businesses could be required to close. Cetain critical areas of business could remain open but these people would have to live on site and not mix with the general population. Food colud be brought in in any number of ways. If this isolation, business lock down were to be instituted for one month Manhattan would be clear and the mess over. keep Manhattan open and the entire country is likely to have an ever sustaining cycle of infection and re - infection with choices of how to deal with it made locally , at least in part.
Not to close Manhattan given what has taken place is opening the door to what will be seen as another massive mistake by government akin to what happened in the 30's.
Praise de lawd !. Governor's of NY and NJ have just ordered the closure of all non essential businesses and probition of any group of people meeting.
Two questions : is it legal and how quickly will the virus be contained.
Should be of interest to see Dow reaction on Monday...will probably tank as economy is taking hits because of a flu bug.
I'll probably stay clear of making any changes as metaphysics will cause me to lose whatever I do.
Italians seem more vulnerable than Chins to dying.
Should be lots of clashes between adults with no where to go and nothing to do and the coppers.
Report from the battle zone : Stop and Shop wiped out of meat, papper products, animal products, garbage bags and french fries. Other areas such as juice and eggs all but gone, same tale at Shop - Rite , a handful of bags of premium cat food and expensive litter otherwise pretty much same as Stop and Shop. Walmart which I thought would be the go to store looks like locusts hit it, Meat, all gone same for french fries. Garbage bags got the last two. All stores, paper towels gone. At Walmart only a very few bags of expensive cat food on the shelves as of noon Saturday ( this for a store that restocks every day ) only premium litter lefy, all canned dog food , even separate cans gone except for a few premiym names. Pretty much depleted of everything I'd buy except cake. Now have 15 weeks supply of everything except milk and maybe paper towels. Things should improve in a few weeks but for now the get it while you can time is limited to limited supply of some necessary animal good...unless you want bagged dog food which the dogs hate,
Expect pockets of infected street people to be potential spreaders for some time as testing is not something they'd want any part of but probably will follow the same path as China . If I had not done my weekly shopping on Tuesday I would not now be aware of any of this.
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2020-03-22 21:23:29 UTC
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
You do know those "artificial scarcities" you apparently despise are
caused by people who "lay in an enormous amount" and then "add more"...
`If, for whatever good reason, you need, that is need,enough product to withstand a " 2 per customer limit " for some open ended time not to be pro active is negligence. At present schools are closed and will probably not reopen this school year. All restaurants, bars, clubs, movies and theaters are closed indefinately in the NYC greater metro area. Walmart, due to their massive buying power is the only store/super market that is able to restock animal food. Even the new super Walmart I discovered, by far the biggest one floor square footage store I've seen is out of paper products and inexpensive cuts of beef
I've cleaned out a Shop - Rite ( forget my local Stop and Shop ) only left the over priced items at a Target and nearly depleted the WalMart of packaged canned dog food, bagged cat food and litter. Without the Walmart I'd be far from set as to weathering whatever public storm is coming down the road.
In Jersey this panic buying began on Friday I did not find out until Tuesday and have made up for lost time. To try to go against what may be a tidal wave is naive at best. Total haul in three days : 1500 pounds of animal food 700 pounds of litter to add to the 800 pounds I already had. If I do not need all this I'll set it aside for the super hurricane(s ) that are sure to come as sure as shootin'.
Manhattan is the epicenter for the virus due to the infusion of people from other areas and population density. I'm having to revise my estimate of the impact of the virus for several reasons : tho still not a " fatal " illness at least not unless it mutates , government response has been draconian...but it won't help much.
In Whuan everything stopped : people in and out of the city, offices, factories as well as closing schools and keeping people indoors with government food deliveries.
In Manhattan many tens of thousands of commuters in packed buses and trains are in and out five days a week. Millions of people in NYC are at offices and factories. No possibility of the virus not spreading. On Thursday the NYC mayor declared that the number of infected exploded since Tuesday. In China anyone leaving home gets mandatory testing.
Italy is prepared to lockdown everything so many people have died.
The virus will spread from Manhattan to the entire country, especially as symptoms will not show for 4 or 5 days.
I suspect the real reason for the measures that have been implemented in my area ( some stores have already instituted a 50 person in the store maximum ) is to avoid hospitals being overwhelmed by people wanting treatment.
Turns out I was correct in my initial assessment of the problem ( if I had still held stocks I would have sold everything in late January...ironic that the NY stock exchange Dow hit an all time high in late February.)
Dow is now down 30%, figures to drop at least another 10 % . A long term depression with closures of places of business is possible.
Given the open society the mandatory testing of everybody seems unlikely and even so just a few carriers could infect many people already tested.
Trump's failure to implement stringent measures in January/February and what now seems, atbest a serious recession, will be his legacy and my opinion of his chances of re-election have gone from excellent to nil...even Sanders would beat him.
The Stock market will respond to the spread or containment of the illness with Dow under 10,000 a real possibility as industry may be forced to cut back on letting people operate in large numbers in small spaces.
Irony is if the illness was just allowed to run its course with just government intervention on increases of available medical services the ultimate effect on the economy might be less than what will be done.
Things will really be bad when I use the respirator on shopping trips.
I'll be back at Wal Mart on Tuesday, believe it or not the store restocks every day... if product is available. If I see that weekend panic buying has further depleted available goods I'll continue to stock up, if a 2 per item limit is imposed I'll hit several stores as four or five are in the same immediate location or are on the route.
I must be fed.
Plague has been always included in the outlook for the dystopia to come. Trump 's portrait ( with that holy man sky blue , burst of light background ) may be the iconic image that comes to peoples' minds when the topic is raised...Will the Jesus freaks reclassify him as Satan or accept his blaming the Democrats for the whole mess ? China and Trump...perfect together.
`THe best wat to have dealt with this and maybe still the best tho not as effective as it would have been two weeks ago is to isolate Manhattan. Sounds like sci - fi stuff but possible. Residents could continue to work and the city just accept a lot of sick people or businesses could be required to close. Cetain critical areas of business could remain open but these people would have to live on site and not mix with the general population. Food colud be brought in in any number of ways. If this isolation, business lock down were to be instituted for one month Manhattan would be clear and the mess over. keep Manhattan open and the entire country is likely to have an ever sustaining cycle of infection and re - infection with choices of how to deal with it made locally , at least in part.
Not to close Manhattan given what has taken place is opening the door to what will be seen as another massive mistake by government akin to what happened in the 30's.
Praise de lawd !. Governor's of NY and NJ have just ordered the closure of all non essential businesses and probition of any group of people meeting.
Two questions : is it legal and how quickly will the virus be contained.
Should be of interest to see Dow reaction on Monday...will probably tank as economy is taking hits because of a flu bug.
I'll probably stay clear of making any changes as metaphysics will cause me to lose whatever I do.
Italians seem more vulnerable than Chins to dying.
Should be lots of clashes between adults with no where to go and nothing to do and the coppers.
Report from the battle zone : Stop and Shop wiped out of meat, papper products, animal products, garbage bags and french fries. Other areas such as juice and eggs all but gone, same tale at Shop - Rite , a handful of bags of premium cat food and expensive litter otherwise pretty much same as Stop and Shop. Walmart which I thought would be the go to store looks like locusts hit it, Meat, all gone same for french fries. Garbage bags got the last two. All stores, paper towels gone. At Walmart only a very few bags of expensive cat food on the shelves as of noon Saturday ( this for a store that restocks every day ) only premium litter lefy, all canned dog food , even separate cans gone except for a few premiym names. Pretty much depleted of everything I'd buy except cake. Now have 15 weeks supply of everything except milk and maybe paper towels. Things should improve in a few weeks but for now the get it while you can time is limited to limited supply of some necessary animal good...unless you want bagged dog food which the dogs hate,
Expect pockets of infected street people to be potential spreaders for some time as testing is not something they'd want any part of but probably will follow the same path as China . If I had not done my weekly shopping on Tuesday I would not now be aware of any of this.
After some more thought I can see a terrible irony coming out of this. The actions of Deomcratic governors to shut down their states which will cause the pandemic to be stopped in its tracks can well save Trump's re - election possibilities.
Stock market should rebound sharply startyting Tuesday and he back near its high in November which will allow the world's most successful crook to claim that he cured a foreign invasion.
So many calamaties are coming down the road for America : more, and more deadly, pandemics, financial crises due to the astronomocal debt which is so high numbers don't matter anymore since it is too big to effectively reduce, massive multiple hurricanes on the East coast and drought in the mid - Western breadbaket that Trump who is as Bloomburg called him : a barking carnival clown can be viewed as black comedy for the economic dystopia to come.
As with all past economic catastrophies market " analysts " are in a buy, buy, buy state of mind. Shame is the wrong people do very well in this climate. Were it not for my metaphysical fate of perpetual bad luck I could prosper in such an enviornment but all I can do is watch the same predictable build ups of coming disasters without being able to gain from them.
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
You do know those "artificial scarcities" you apparently despise are
caused by people who "lay in an enormous amount" and then "add more"...
`If, for whatever good reason, you need, that is need,enough product to withstand a " 2 per customer limit " for some open ended time not to be pro active is negligence. At present schools are closed and will probably not reopen this school year. All restaurants, bars, clubs, movies and theaters are closed indefinately in the NYC greater metro area. Walmart, due to their massive buying power is the only store/super market that is able to restock animal food. Even the new super Walmart I discovered, by far the biggest one floor square footage store I've seen is out of paper products and inexpensive cuts of beef
I've cleaned out a Shop - Rite ( forget my local Stop and Shop ) only left the over priced items at a Target and nearly depleted the WalMart of packaged canned dog food, bagged cat food and litter. Without the Walmart I'd be far from set as to weathering whatever public storm is coming down the road.
In Jersey this panic buying began on Friday I did not find out until Tuesday and have made up for lost time. To try to go against what may be a tidal wave is naive at best. Total haul in three days : 1500 pounds of animal food 700 pounds of litter to add to the 800 pounds I already had. If I do not need all this I'll set it aside for the super hurricane(s ) that are sure to come as sure as shootin'.
Manhattan is the epicenter for the virus due to the infusion of people from other areas and population density. I'm having to revise my estimate of the impact of the virus for several reasons : tho still not a " fatal " illness at least not unless it mutates , government response has been draconian...but it won't help much.
In Whuan everything stopped : people in and out of the city, offices, factories as well as closing schools and keeping people indoors with government food deliveries.
In Manhattan many tens of thousands of commuters in packed buses and trains are in and out five days a week. Millions of people in NYC are at offices and factories. No possibility of the virus not spreading. On Thursday the NYC mayor declared that the number of infected exploded since Tuesday. In China anyone leaving home gets mandatory testing.
Italy is prepared to lockdown everything so many people have died.
The virus will spread from Manhattan to the entire country, especially as symptoms will not show for 4 or 5 days.
I suspect the real reason for the measures that have been implemented in my area ( some stores have already instituted a 50 person in the store maximum ) is to avoid hospitals being overwhelmed by people wanting treatment.
Turns out I was correct in my initial assessment of the problem ( if I had still held stocks I would have sold everything in late January...ironic that the NY stock exchange Dow hit an all time high in late February.)
Dow is now down 30%, figures to drop at least another 10 % . A long term depression with closures of places of business is possible.
Given the open society the mandatory testing of everybody seems unlikely and even so just a few carriers could infect many people already tested.
Trump's failure to implement stringent measures in January/February and what now seems, atbest a serious recession, will be his legacy and my opinion of his chances of re-election have gone from excellent to nil...even Sanders would beat him.
The Stock market will respond to the spread or containment of the illness with Dow under 10,000 a real possibility as industry may be forced to cut back on letting people operate in large numbers in small spaces.
Irony is if the illness was just allowed to run its course with just government intervention on increases of available medical services the ultimate effect on the economy might be less than what will be done.
Things will really be bad when I use the respirator on shopping trips.
I'll be back at Wal Mart on Tuesday, believe it or not the store restocks every day... if product is available. If I see that weekend panic buying has further depleted available goods I'll continue to stock up, if a 2 per item limit is imposed I'll hit several stores as four or five are in the same immediate location or are on the route.
I must be fed.
Plague has been always included in the outlook for the dystopia to come. Trump 's portrait ( with that holy man sky blue , burst of light background ) may be the iconic image that comes to peoples' minds when the topic is raised...Will the Jesus freaks reclassify him as Satan or accept his blaming the Democrats for the whole mess ? China and Trump...perfect together.
`THe best wat to have dealt with this and maybe still the best tho not as effective as it would have been two weeks ago is to isolate Manhattan. Sounds like sci - fi stuff but possible. Residents could continue to work and the city just accept a lot of sick people or businesses could be required to close. Cetain critical areas of business could remain open but these people would have to live on site and not mix with the general population. Food colud be brought in in any number of ways. If this isolation, business lock down were to be instituted for one month Manhattan would be clear and the mess over. keep Manhattan open and the entire country is likely to have an ever sustaining cycle of infection and re - infection with choices of how to deal with it made locally , at least in part.
Not to close Manhattan given what has taken place is opening the door to what will be seen as another massive mistake by government akin to what happened in the 30's.
Praise de lawd !. Governor's of NY and NJ have just ordered the closure of all non essential businesses and probition of any group of people meeting.
Two questions : is it legal and how quickly will the virus be contained.
Should be of interest to see Dow reaction on Monday...will probably tank as economy is taking hits because of a flu bug.
I'll probably stay clear of making any changes as metaphysics will cause me to lose whatever I do.
Italians seem more vulnerable than Chins to dying.
Should be lots of clashes between adults with no where to go and nothing to do and the coppers.
Report from the battle zone : Stop and Shop wiped out of meat, papper products, animal products, garbage bags and french fries. Other areas such as juice and eggs all but gone, same tale at Shop - Rite , a handful of bags of premium cat food and expensive litter otherwise pretty much same as Stop and Shop. Walmart which I thought would be the go to store looks like locusts hit it, Meat, all gone same for french fries. Garbage bags got the last two. All stores, paper towels gone. At Walmart only a very few bags of expensive cat food on the shelves as of noon Saturday ( this for a store that restocks every day ) only premium litter lefy, all canned dog food , even separate cans gone except for a few premiym names. Pretty much depleted of everything I'd buy except cake. Now have 15 weeks supply of everything except milk and maybe paper towels. Things should improve in a few weeks but for now the get it while you can time is limited to limited supply of some necessary animal good...unless you want bagged dog food which the dogs hate,
Expect pockets of infected street people to be potential spreaders for some time as testing is not something they'd want any part of but probably will follow the same path as China . If I had not done my weekly shopping on Tuesday I would not now be aware of any of this.
After some more thought I can see a terrible irony coming out of this. The actions of Deomcratic governors to shut down their states which will cause the pandemic to be stopped in its tracks can well save Trump's re - election possibilities.
Stock market should rebound sharply startyting Tuesday and he back near its high in November which will allow the world's most successful crook to claim that he cured a foreign invasion.
So many calamaties are coming down the road for America : more, and more deadly, pandemics, financial crises due to the astronomocal debt which is so high numbers don't matter anymore since it is too big to effectively reduce, massive multiple hurricanes on the East coast and drought in the mid - Western breadbaket that Trump who is as Bloomburg called him : a barking carnival clown can be viewed as black comedy for the economic dystopia to come.
As with all past economic catastrophies market " analysts " are in a buy, buy, buy state of mind. Shame is the wrong people do very well in this climate. Were it not for my metaphysical fate of perpetual bad luck I could prosper in such an enviornment but all I can do is watch the same predictable build ups of coming disasters without being able to gain from them.
Governor of NY just said crisis WILL 3 to 9 months, that will cause a deep recession and a how low is low ? view of secutities. Fed went all in this morning to stop retreat...market did not but it.
I've been waiting 8 years for a crash , maybe if Dow's around 13K or lower I'll buy in for high dividends. Since then I've been getting 2 %.
This has been caused by one man whose bungling of the potential threat has turned a concern into a possible depression.
Until Thursday I had not looked at the Dow or the price of the stock I owned since 2012. Thought I had made a very costly error in 2012 by selling or a massive erroe in 2008 by not going all in. The latter was a thought, did not want to risk my future.
To watch what's happening with stocks is seeing history in the making. Still think this will clear up in 6 weeks but I'm the worst at predictions. My vet was only taking in animals to the office last week. This week she's closed. Take a real problem add over reaction and you have 1929.
Favorite quote : Bishop of Canteburry advised all people tt please, please, not panic buy. Advised his flock that it is not Christian to as the bible says have two coats and not give one to someone without a coat. I'd say to holy Joe, " Then I'd be one of the ones without a coat". Even if I had a lot in stocks now I'd still appreciate the spectacle.
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
You do know those "artificial scarcities" you apparently despise are
caused by people who "lay in an enormous amount" and then "add more"...
`If, for whatever good reason, you need, that is need,enough product to withstand a " 2 per customer limit " for some open ended time not to be pro active is negligence. At present schools are closed and will probably not reopen this school year. All restaurants, bars, clubs, movies and theaters are closed indefinately in the NYC greater metro area. Walmart, due to their massive buying power is the only store/super market that is able to restock animal food. Even the new super Walmart I discovered, by far the biggest one floor square footage store I've seen is out of paper products and inexpensive cuts of beef
I've cleaned out a Shop - Rite ( forget my local Stop and Shop ) only left the over priced items at a Target and nearly depleted the WalMart of packaged canned dog food, bagged cat food and litter. Without the Walmart I'd be far from set as to weathering whatever public storm is coming down the road.
In Jersey this panic buying began on Friday I did not find out until Tuesday and have made up for lost time. To try to go against what may be a tidal wave is naive at best. Total haul in three days : 1500 pounds of animal food 700 pounds of litter to add to the 800 pounds I already had. If I do not need all this I'll set it aside for the super hurricane(s ) that are sure to come as sure as shootin'.
Manhattan is the epicenter for the virus due to the infusion of people from other areas and population density. I'm having to revise my estimate of the impact of the virus for several reasons : tho still not a " fatal " illness at least not unless it mutates , government response has been draconian...but it won't help much.
In Whuan everything stopped : people in and out of the city, offices, factories as well as closing schools and keeping people indoors with government food deliveries.
In Manhattan many tens of thousands of commuters in packed buses and trains are in and out five days a week. Millions of people in NYC are at offices and factories. No possibility of the virus not spreading. On Thursday the NYC mayor declared that the number of infected exploded since Tuesday. In China anyone leaving home gets mandatory testing.
Italy is prepared to lockdown everything so many people have died.
The virus will spread from Manhattan to the entire country, especially as symptoms will not show for 4 or 5 days.
I suspect the real reason for the measures that have been implemented in my area ( some stores have already instituted a 50 person in the store maximum ) is to avoid hospitals being overwhelmed by people wanting treatment.
Turns out I was correct in my initial assessment of the problem ( if I had still held stocks I would have sold everything in late January...ironic that the NY stock exchange Dow hit an all time high in late February.)
Dow is now down 30%, figures to drop at least another 10 % . A long term depression with closures of places of business is possible.
Given the open society the mandatory testing of everybody seems unlikely and even so just a few carriers could infect many people already tested.
Trump's failure to implement stringent measures in January/February and what now seems, atbest a serious recession, will be his legacy and my opinion of his chances of re-election have gone from excellent to nil...even Sanders would beat him.
The Stock market will respond to the spread or containment of the illness with Dow under 10,000 a real possibility as industry may be forced to cut back on letting people operate in large numbers in small spaces.
Irony is if the illness was just allowed to run its course with just government intervention on increases of available medical services the ultimate effect on the economy might be less than what will be done.
Things will really be bad when I use the respirator on shopping trips.
I'll be back at Wal Mart on Tuesday, believe it or not the store restocks every day... if product is available. If I see that weekend panic buying has further depleted available goods I'll continue to stock up, if a 2 per item limit is imposed I'll hit several stores as four or five are in the same immediate location or are on the route.
I must be fed.
Plague has been always included in the outlook for the dystopia to come. Trump 's portrait ( with that holy man sky blue , burst of light background ) may be the iconic image that comes to peoples' minds when the topic is raised...Will the Jesus freaks reclassify him as Satan or accept his blaming the Democrats for the whole mess ? China and Trump...perfect together.
`THe best wat to have dealt with this and maybe still the best tho not as effective as it would have been two weeks ago is to isolate Manhattan. Sounds like sci - fi stuff but possible. Residents could continue to work and the city just accept a lot of sick people or businesses could be required to close. Cetain critical areas of business could remain open but these people would have to live on site and not mix with the general population. Food colud be brought in in any number of ways. If this isolation, business lock down were to be instituted for one month Manhattan would be clear and the mess over. keep Manhattan open and the entire country is likely to have an ever sustaining cycle of infection and re - infection with choices of how to deal with it made locally , at least in part.
Not to close Manhattan given what has taken place is opening the door to what will be seen as another massive mistake by government akin to what happened in the 30's.
Praise de lawd !. Governor's of NY and NJ have just ordered the closure of all non essential businesses and probition of any group of people meeting.
Two questions : is it legal and how quickly will the virus be contained.
Should be of interest to see Dow reaction on Monday...will probably tank as economy is taking hits because of a flu bug.
I'll probably stay clear of making any changes as metaphysics will cause me to lose whatever I do.
Italians seem more vulnerable than Chins to dying.
Should be lots of clashes between adults with no where to go and nothing to do and the coppers.
Report from the battle zone : Stop and Shop wiped out of meat, papper products, animal products, garbage bags and french fries. Other areas such as juice and eggs all but gone, same tale at Shop - Rite , a handful of bags of premium cat food and expensive litter otherwise pretty much same as Stop and Shop. Walmart which I thought would be the go to store looks like locusts hit it, Meat, all gone same for french fries. Garbage bags got the last two. All stores, paper towels gone. At Walmart only a very few bags of expensive cat food on the shelves as of noon Saturday ( this for a store that restocks every day ) only premium litter lefy, all canned dog food , even separate cans gone except for a few premiym names. Pretty much depleted of everything I'd buy except cake. Now have 15 weeks supply of everything except milk and maybe paper towels. Things should improve in a few weeks but for now the get it while you can time is limited to limited supply of some necessary animal good...unless you want bagged dog food which the dogs hate,
Expect pockets of infected street people to be potential spreaders for some time as testing is not something they'd want any part of but probably will follow the same path as China . If I had not done my weekly shopping on Tuesday I would not now be aware of any of this.
After some more thought I can see a terrible irony coming out of this. The actions of Deomcratic governors to shut down their states which will cause the pandemic to be stopped in its tracks can well save Trump's re - election possibilities.
Stock market should rebound sharply startyting Tuesday and he back near its high in November which will allow the world's most successful crook to claim that he cured a foreign invasion.
So many calamaties are coming down the road for America : more, and more deadly, pandemics, financial crises due to the astronomocal debt which is so high numbers don't matter anymore since it is too big to effectively reduce, massive multiple hurricanes on the East coast and drought in the mid - Western breadbaket that Trump who is as Bloomburg called him : a barking carnival clown can be viewed as black comedy for the economic dystopia to come.
As with all past economic catastrophies market " analysts " are in a buy, buy, buy state of mind. Shame is the wrong people do very well in this climate. Were it not for my metaphysical fate of perpetual bad luck I could prosper in such an enviornment but all I can do is watch the same predictable build ups of coming disasters without being able to gain from them.
Governor of NY just said crisis WILL 3 to 9 months, that will cause a deep recession and a how low is low ? view of secutities. Fed went all in this morning to stop retreat...market did not but it.
I've been waiting 8 years for a crash , maybe if Dow's around 13K or lower I'll buy in for high dividends. Since then I've been getting 2 %.
This has been caused by one man whose bungling of the potential threat has turned a concern into a possible depression.
Until Thursday I had not looked at the Dow or the price of the stock I owned since 2012. Thought I had made a very costly error in 2012 by selling or a massive erroe in 2008 by not going all in. The latter was a thought, did not want to risk my future.
To watch what's happening with stocks is seeing history in the making. Still think this will clear up in 6 weeks but I'm the worst at predictions. My vet was only taking in animals to the office last week. This week she's closed. Take a real problem add over reaction and you have 1929.
Favorite quote : Bishop of Canteburry advised all people tt please, please, not panic buy. Advised his flock that it is not Christian to as the bible says have two coats and not give one to someone without a coat. I'd say to holy Joe, " Then I'd be one of the ones without a coat". Even if I had a lot in stocks now I'd still appreciate the spectacle.
I'm going to make an evaluation of the situation : over reaction /government bungling have turned a moderate problem into a fiasco. The number of people who will die due to infection is no more than another way to die, Stock market will keep an eye on new infections which will even at this point be contained pretty well. Financial recovery will begin tomorrow , shortages will abate in about a week. Fact that virus is not deadly for all but a few will finally strike home . Some hospitals are short on supplies, some are not.Stocks will take a few months to get really going but soon it will be all over with politicians finger pointing and back slapping... the residue of this " fake " pandemic ". When a real one does come it be a far different story but this is as phony a pandemic as Trump is from being presidential timber.
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
You do know those "artificial scarcities" you apparently despise are
caused by people who "lay in an enormous amount" and then "add more"...
`If, for whatever good reason, you need, that is need,enough product to withstand a " 2 per customer limit " for some open ended time not to be pro active is negligence. At present schools are closed and will probably not reopen this school year. All restaurants, bars, clubs, movies and theaters are closed indefinately in the NYC greater metro area. Walmart, due to their massive buying power is the only store/super market that is able to restock animal food. Even the new super Walmart I discovered, by far the biggest one floor square footage store I've seen is out of paper products and inexpensive cuts of beef
I've cleaned out a Shop - Rite ( forget my local Stop and Shop ) only left the over priced items at a Target and nearly depleted the WalMart of packaged canned dog food, bagged cat food and litter. Without the Walmart I'd be far from set as to weathering whatever public storm is coming down the road.
In Jersey this panic buying began on Friday I did not find out until Tuesday and have made up for lost time. To try to go against what may be a tidal wave is naive at best. Total haul in three days : 1500 pounds of animal food 700 pounds of litter to add to the 800 pounds I already had. If I do not need all this I'll set it aside for the super hurricane(s ) that are sure to come as sure as shootin'.
Manhattan is the epicenter for the virus due to the infusion of people from other areas and population density. I'm having to revise my estimate of the impact of the virus for several reasons : tho still not a " fatal " illness at least not unless it mutates , government response has been draconian...but it won't help much.
In Whuan everything stopped : people in and out of the city, offices, factories as well as closing schools and keeping people indoors with government food deliveries.
In Manhattan many tens of thousands of commuters in packed buses and trains are in and out five days a week. Millions of people in NYC are at offices and factories. No possibility of the virus not spreading. On Thursday the NYC mayor declared that the number of infected exploded since Tuesday. In China anyone leaving home gets mandatory testing.
Italy is prepared to lockdown everything so many people have died.
The virus will spread from Manhattan to the entire country, especially as symptoms will not show for 4 or 5 days.
I suspect the real reason for the measures that have been implemented in my area ( some stores have already instituted a 50 person in the store maximum ) is to avoid hospitals being overwhelmed by people wanting treatment.
Turns out I was correct in my initial assessment of the problem ( if I had still held stocks I would have sold everything in late January...ironic that the NY stock exchange Dow hit an all time high in late February.)
Dow is now down 30%, figures to drop at least another 10 % . A long term depression with closures of places of business is possible.
Given the open society the mandatory testing of everybody seems unlikely and even so just a few carriers could infect many people already tested.
Trump's failure to implement stringent measures in January/February and what now seems, atbest a serious recession, will be his legacy and my opinion of his chances of re-election have gone from excellent to nil...even Sanders would beat him.
The Stock market will respond to the spread or containment of the illness with Dow under 10,000 a real possibility as industry may be forced to cut back on letting people operate in large numbers in small spaces.
Irony is if the illness was just allowed to run its course with just government intervention on increases of available medical services the ultimate effect on the economy might be less than what will be done.
Things will really be bad when I use the respirator on shopping trips.
I'll be back at Wal Mart on Tuesday, believe it or not the store restocks every day... if product is available. If I see that weekend panic buying has further depleted available goods I'll continue to stock up, if a 2 per item limit is imposed I'll hit several stores as four or five are in the same immediate location or are on the route.
I must be fed.
Plague has been always included in the outlook for the dystopia to come. Trump 's portrait ( with that holy man sky blue , burst of light background ) may be the iconic image that comes to peoples' minds when the topic is raised...Will the Jesus freaks reclassify him as Satan or accept his blaming the Democrats for the whole mess ? China and Trump...perfect together.
`THe best wat to have dealt with this and maybe still the best tho not as effective as it would have been two weeks ago is to isolate Manhattan. Sounds like sci - fi stuff but possible. Residents could continue to work and the city just accept a lot of sick people or businesses could be required to close. Cetain critical areas of business could remain open but these people would have to live on site and not mix with the general population. Food colud be brought in in any number of ways. If this isolation, business lock down were to be instituted for one month Manhattan would be clear and the mess over. keep Manhattan open and the entire country is likely to have an ever sustaining cycle of infection and re - infection with choices of how to deal with it made locally , at least in part.
Not to close Manhattan given what has taken place is opening the door to what will be seen as another massive mistake by government akin to what happened in the 30's.
Praise de lawd !. Governor's of NY and NJ have just ordered the closure of all non essential businesses and probition of any group of people meeting.
Two questions : is it legal and how quickly will the virus be contained.
Should be of interest to see Dow reaction on Monday...will probably tank as economy is taking hits because of a flu bug.
I'll probably stay clear of making any changes as metaphysics will cause me to lose whatever I do.
Italians seem more vulnerable than Chins to dying.
Should be lots of clashes between adults with no where to go and nothing to do and the coppers.
Report from the battle zone : Stop and Shop wiped out of meat, papper products, animal products, garbage bags and french fries. Other areas such as juice and eggs all but gone, same tale at Shop - Rite , a handful of bags of premium cat food and expensive litter otherwise pretty much same as Stop and Shop. Walmart which I thought would be the go to store looks like locusts hit it, Meat, all gone same for french fries. Garbage bags got the last two. All stores, paper towels gone. At Walmart only a very few bags of expensive cat food on the shelves as of noon Saturday ( this for a store that restocks every day ) only premium litter lefy, all canned dog food , even separate cans gone except for a few premiym names. Pretty much depleted of everything I'd buy except cake. Now have 15 weeks supply of everything except milk and maybe paper towels. Things should improve in a few weeks but for now the get it while you can time is limited to limited supply of some necessary animal good...unless you want bagged dog food which the dogs hate,
Expect pockets of infected street people to be potential spreaders for some time as testing is not something they'd want any part of but probably will follow the same path as China . If I had not done my weekly shopping on Tuesday I would not now be aware of any of this.
After some more thought I can see a terrible irony coming out of this. The actions of Deomcratic governors to shut down their states which will cause the pandemic to be stopped in its tracks can well save Trump's re - election possibilities.
Stock market should rebound sharply startyting Tuesday and he back near its high in November which will allow the world's most successful crook to claim that he cured a foreign invasion.
So many calamaties are coming down the road for America : more, and more deadly, pandemics, financial crises due to the astronomocal debt which is so high numbers don't matter anymore since it is too big to effectively reduce, massive multiple hurricanes on the East coast and drought in the mid - Western breadbaket that Trump who is as Bloomburg called him : a barking carnival clown can be viewed as black comedy for the economic dystopia to come.
As with all past economic catastrophies market " analysts " are in a buy, buy, buy state of mind. Shame is the wrong people do very well in this climate. Were it not for my metaphysical fate of perpetual bad luck I could prosper in such an enviornment but all I can do is watch the same predictable build ups of coming disasters without being able to gain from them.
Governor of NY just said crisis WILL 3 to 9 months, that will cause a deep recession and a how low is low ? view of secutities. Fed went all in this morning to stop retreat...market did not but it.
I've been waiting 8 years for a crash , maybe if Dow's around 13K or lower I'll buy in for high dividends. Since then I've been getting 2 %.
This has been caused by one man whose bungling of the potential threat has turned a concern into a possible depression.
Until Thursday I had not looked at the Dow or the price of the stock I owned since 2012. Thought I had made a very costly error in 2012 by selling or a massive erroe in 2008 by not going all in. The latter was a thought, did not want to risk my future.
To watch what's happening with stocks is seeing history in the making. Still think this will clear up in 6 weeks but I'm the worst at predictions. My vet was only taking in animals to the office last week. This week she's closed. Take a real problem add over reaction and you have 1929.
Favorite quote : Bishop of Canteburry advised all people tt please, please, not panic buy. Advised his flock that it is not Christian to as the bible says have two coats and not give one to someone without a coat. I'd say to holy Joe, " Then I'd be one of the ones without a coat". Even if I had a lot in stocks now I'd still appreciate the spectacle.
I'm going to make an evaluation of the situation : over reaction /government bungling have turned a moderate problem into a fiasco. The number of people who will die due to infection is no more than another way to die, Stock market will keep an eye on new infections which will even at this point be contained pretty well. Financial recovery will begin tomorrow , shortages will abate in about a week. Fact that virus is not deadly for all but a few will finally strike home . Some hospitals are short on supplies, some are not.Stocks will take a few months to get really going but soon it will be all over with politicians finger pointing and back slapping... the residue of this " fake " pandemic ". When a real one does come it be a far different story but this is as phony a pandemic as Trump is from being presidential timber.
'Epidemic Italian Style' makes it hard to scream "Overreaction!"...
Six thousand deaths in a population of sixty million is as important as that Italian mouse on the Ed Sullivan Show. How do you say, " It's all over but the shouting" in Italiano ?
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
I'd lost interest in the virus weeks ago when it proved to be non - fatal to just about everyone, Now society is going crackers about something only dangerous to old, sick people. Totally screwball. People wearing totally ineffective masks ( I have a respirator ) and stores limiting occupancy to 50 or fewer people. Laid in an enormous amount of food on Tuesday. Probably will add more before the week is over to avoid the artificial scarcities that have started to appear. Total BS
You do know those "artificial scarcities" you apparently despise are
caused by people who "lay in an enormous amount" and then "add more"...
`If, for whatever good reason, you need, that is need,enough product to withstand a " 2 per customer limit " for some open ended time not to be pro active is negligence. At present schools are closed and will probably not reopen this school year. All restaurants, bars, clubs, movies and theaters are closed indefinately in the NYC greater metro area. Walmart, due to their massive buying power is the only store/super market that is able to restock animal food. Even the new super Walmart I discovered, by far the biggest one floor square footage store I've seen is out of paper products and inexpensive cuts of beef
I've cleaned out a Shop - Rite ( forget my local Stop and Shop ) only left the over priced items at a Target and nearly depleted the WalMart of packaged canned dog food, bagged cat food and litter. Without the Walmart I'd be far from set as to weathering whatever public storm is coming down the road.
In Jersey this panic buying began on Friday I did not find out until Tuesday and have made up for lost time. To try to go against what may be a tidal wave is naive at best. Total haul in three days : 1500 pounds of animal food 700 pounds of litter to add to the 800 pounds I already had. If I do not need all this I'll set it aside for the super hurricane(s ) that are sure to come as sure as shootin'.
Manhattan is the epicenter for the virus due to the infusion of people from other areas and population density. I'm having to revise my estimate of the impact of the virus for several reasons : tho still not a " fatal " illness at least not unless it mutates , government response has been draconian...but it won't help much.
In Whuan everything stopped : people in and out of the city, offices, factories as well as closing schools and keeping people indoors with government food deliveries.
In Manhattan many tens of thousands of commuters in packed buses and trains are in and out five days a week. Millions of people in NYC are at offices and factories. No possibility of the virus not spreading. On Thursday the NYC mayor declared that the number of infected exploded since Tuesday. In China anyone leaving home gets mandatory testing.
Italy is prepared to lockdown everything so many people have died.
The virus will spread from Manhattan to the entire country, especially as symptoms will not show for 4 or 5 days.
I suspect the real reason for the measures that have been implemented in my area ( some stores have already instituted a 50 person in the store maximum ) is to avoid hospitals being overwhelmed by people wanting treatment.
Turns out I was correct in my initial assessment of the problem ( if I had still held stocks I would have sold everything in late January...ironic that the NY stock exchange Dow hit an all time high in late February.)
Dow is now down 30%, figures to drop at least another 10 % . A long term depression with closures of places of business is possible.
Given the open society the mandatory testing of everybody seems unlikely and even so just a few carriers could infect many people already tested.
Trump's failure to implement stringent measures in January/February and what now seems, atbest a serious recession, will be his legacy and my opinion of his chances of re-election have gone from excellent to nil...even Sanders would beat him.
The Stock market will respond to the spread or containment of the illness with Dow under 10,000 a real possibility as industry may be forced to cut back on letting people operate in large numbers in small spaces.
Irony is if the illness was just allowed to run its course with just government intervention on increases of available medical services the ultimate effect on the economy might be less than what will be done.
Things will really be bad when I use the respirator on shopping trips.
I'll be back at Wal Mart on Tuesday, believe it or not the store restocks every day... if product is available. If I see that weekend panic buying has further depleted available goods I'll continue to stock up, if a 2 per item limit is imposed I'll hit several stores as four or five are in the same immediate location or are on the route.
I must be fed.
Plague has been always included in the outlook for the dystopia to come. Trump 's portrait ( with that holy man sky blue , burst of light background ) may be the iconic image that comes to peoples' minds when the topic is raised...Will the Jesus freaks reclassify him as Satan or accept his blaming the Democrats for the whole mess ? China and Trump...perfect together.
`THe best wat to have dealt with this and maybe still the best tho not as effective as it would have been two weeks ago is to isolate Manhattan. Sounds like sci - fi stuff but possible. Residents could continue to work and the city just accept a lot of sick people or businesses could be required to close. Cetain critical areas of business could remain open but these people would have to live on site and not mix with the general population. Food colud be brought in in any number of ways. If this isolation, business lock down were to be instituted for one month Manhattan would be clear and the mess over. keep Manhattan open and the entire country is likely to have an ever sustaining cycle of infection and re - infection with choices of how to deal with it made locally , at least in part.
Not to close Manhattan given what has taken place is opening the door to what will be seen as another massive mistake by government akin to what happened in the 30's.
Praise de lawd !. Governor's of NY and NJ have just ordered the closure of all non essential businesses and probition of any group of people meeting.
Two questions : is it legal and how quickly will the virus be contained.
Should be of interest to see Dow reaction on Monday...will probably tank as economy is taking hits because of a flu bug.
I'll probably stay clear of making any changes as metaphysics will cause me to lose whatever I do.
Italians seem more vulnerable than Chins to dying.
Should be lots of clashes between adults with no where to go and nothing to do and the coppers.
Report from the battle zone : Stop and Shop wiped out of meat, papper products, animal products, garbage bags and french fries. Other areas such as juice and eggs all but gone, same tale at Shop - Rite , a handful of bags of premium cat food and expensive litter otherwise pretty much same as Stop and Shop. Walmart which I thought would be the go to store looks like locusts hit it, Meat, all gone same for french fries. Garbage bags got the last two. All stores, paper towels gone. At Walmart only a very few bags of expensive cat food on the shelves as of noon Saturday ( this for a store that restocks every day ) only premium litter lefy, all canned dog food , even separate cans gone except for a few premiym names. Pretty much depleted of everything I'd buy except cake. Now have 15 weeks supply of everything except milk and maybe paper towels. Things should improve in a few weeks but for now the get it while you can time is limited to limited supply of some necessary animal good...unless you want bagged dog food which the dogs hate,
Expect pockets of infected street people to be potential spreaders for some time as testing is not something they'd want any part of but probably will follow the same path as China . If I had not done my weekly shopping on Tuesday I would not now be aware of any of this.
After some more thought I can see a terrible irony coming out of this. The actions of Deomcratic governors to shut down their states which will cause the pandemic to be stopped in its tracks can well save Trump's re - election possibilities.
Stock market should rebound sharply startyting Tuesday and he back near its high in November which will allow the world's most successful crook to claim that he cured a foreign invasion.
So many calamaties are coming down the road for America : more, and more deadly, pandemics, financial crises due to the astronomocal debt which is so high numbers don't matter anymore since it is too big to effectively reduce, massive multiple hurricanes on the East coast and drought in the mid - Western breadbaket that Trump who is as Bloomburg called him : a barking carnival clown can be viewed as black comedy for the economic dystopia to come.
As with all past economic catastrophies market " analysts " are in a buy, buy, buy state of mind. Shame is the wrong people do very well in this climate. Were it not for my metaphysical fate of perpetual bad luck I could prosper in such an enviornment but all I can do is watch the same predictable build ups of coming disasters without being able to gain from them.
Governor of NY just said crisis WILL 3 to 9 months, that will cause a deep recession and a how low is low ? view of secutities. Fed went all in this morning to stop retreat...market did not but it.
I've been waiting 8 years for a crash , maybe if Dow's around 13K or lower I'll buy in for high dividends. Since then I've been getting 2 %.
This has been caused by one man whose bungling of the potential threat has turned a concern into a possible depression.
Until Thursday I had not looked at the Dow or the price of the stock I owned since 2012. Thought I had made a very costly error in 2012 by selling or a massive erroe in 2008 by not going all in. The latter was a thought, did not want to risk my future.
To watch what's happening with stocks is seeing history in the making. Still think this will clear up in 6 weeks but I'm the worst at predictions. My vet was only taking in animals to the office last week. This week she's closed. Take a real problem add over reaction and you have 1929.
Favorite quote : Bishop of Canteburry advised all people tt please, please, not panic buy. Advised his flock that it is not Christian to as the bible says have two coats and not give one to someone without a coat. I'd say to holy Joe, " Then I'd be one of the ones without a coat". Even if I had a lot in stocks now I'd still appreciate the spectacle.
I'm going to make an evaluation of the situation : over reaction /government bungling have turned a moderate problem into a fiasco. The number of people who will die due to infection is no more than another way to die, Stock market will keep an eye on new infections which will even at this point be contained pretty well. Financial recovery will begin tomorrow , shortages will abate in about a week. Fact that virus is not deadly for all but a few will finally strike home . Some hospitals are short on supplies, some are not.Stocks will take a few months to get really going but soon it will be all over with politicians finger pointing and back slapping... the residue of this " fake " pandemic ". When a real one does come it be a far different story but this is as phony a pandemic as Trump is from being presidential timber.
'Epidemic Italian Style' makes it hard to scream "Overreaction!"...
Six thousand deaths in a population of sixty million is as important as that Italian mouse on the Ed Sullivan Show. How do you say, " It's all over but the shouting" in Italiano ?
Been looking at Yahoo comments on the medical/social status quo which are in the main, dire. And to me laughable. Forecasts of unstopable spread of infection which will bring about a WW 2 like test of American fortitude remind me of The Katz and Jammer Kids comic strip. The problem ended when Manhattan was closed down. In five weeks this will be yesterday's newspaper. The place to look for accurate views is The Street which is saying better late than never and late is working. I've never been a newshound but the inescapeable focus of media on the worst aspects of hospitalizations is more fake news. It's an epidemic, some people will die, hospitals, like other for profit institutions have minimal; ability to deal with more admissions than usual...big wow. When sensationalized opinions are of more interest than what's actually happening, when grandstanding by politicians is of more amusement than concern for the effect on the population it's only a reflection of the passing parade , or as might be put by a religious nutter person I know, human frailty.
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
Can anyone explain to me how , at this point in time, US has 40,000 infected ( reported ) cases and 500 deaths and this disease is thought to be more than a pain in the ass ? Solution : keep Manhattan shut down as it is the epicenter, old people stay home , everybody else back to normal. If this is to be a movie it will need be a black comedy. A few days ago I watched a video of bad tan man and thought who is that mortuary corpse behind him ? It turned out to be the VP.
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Forget China numbers, the best view of what to expect is the Diamond Princess in lock down in Japan. Have yet to see any report of a single person who has recovered from the infection, that's key. A vaccine could take a long time to be found. Both the " Spanish flu " named such because Spain was the only country that candidly reported its spread , and the plague that killed 1/3 of the population of Europe both came to an end without anyone to this day really knowing why.
50/50 the problem will kill off a significant per centage of the world's population or just run its course mainly in China.
During the Spanish flu after WW 1 the government prevented newspapers from publishing reports on what was happening. Tens of millions died in Asia.
Trump is the last person to be in charge of the US if the problem hits here. The medical face masks are widely known not to be effective against the problem but for some reason the Chins think the are. I have a respirator that I know works with animal contaminants maybe will work against the virus. Even so if the food supply is affected look out.
At the first sign that the infection is starting to run through the NYC or NJ population I'm stocking up on months worth of food for my animals and me.
Spread of the virus would likely come from close contact with an infected person or touching anything days after the virus has landed on whatever. I'll be wearing rubber gloves at the food mrket as well as a respirator.
If China and other Asian countries go down for the count they will try to spread the virus to the West.
Aids vaccine took years to develop. This problem could wipe out human kind...and so much for the good IMO, in less than a year...or it could stay for the most part in Asia and die out. Remarkable that so much critical information is still unknown. Does not matter if it came from a meat market or military lab. Cases have appeared in North Korea. The poor health care system there could lead to the country being wiped out and and the leadership could shoot off their nuclear rockets in a last hurrah. Sad to see net posters downplaying this and pointing to
flu killing lots of people every year.
As I wrote in another post I see the coincidence in my first watching Godzilla King of the Monsters which opens in China at the same time news of what is happening in China surfaced The Kaiju are presented as a way to kill off people and cleanse the earth of man made pollution. I have been familiar with the corona virus for some time as it is an underlying cause of disease in cats.
Keep an eye on the Diamond Princess outbreak tho I would not be surprised if the Japanese government lies about what takes place. The virus can be present in a person who is a carrier but does not show symptoms. All infected people will not show symptoms for several days.
Mankind has two chances ; virus does not kill a high percentage of people infected and the plague will some how run its course, at some time. Unlikely any country will be able to contain the disease...too many people already have it.
How many movies will be made about this outbreak ?
Can anyone explain to me how , at this point in time, US has 40,000 infected ( reported ) cases and 500 deaths and this disease is thought to be more than a pain in the ass ? Solution : keep Manhattan shut down as it is the epicenter, old people stay home , everybody else back to normal. If this is to be a movie it will need be a black comedy. A few days ago I watched a video of bad tan man and thought who is that mortuary corpse behind him ? It turned out to be the VP.
10 AM report from Walmart WEdnesday morning,,,hardly any customers, managed to get all the paper towels I wanted as a small load was just being put on the shelf. Cleaned out the Ol'Roy canned dog food which had been restocked, left several packages of Purina. Lots of litter, bagged cat food very thinned out. Did not bother to look into other foods.
There has developed a consensus among posters on Yahoo which is now correct : disease will affect more people unless people are prohibited from massing together. Seems that it has finally set in to everyone that deaths will be minimal, just a matter of for how long will business and recreation areas be closed vs. number of new cases. Few people wear the ineffective masks. Everyone in power advocating for closures will be getting tremendous pressure to get things back to normal in a couple of weeks. Nobody talks about a mutated , more deadly form of the virus showing up partially as a result of efforts to treat or cure it...that is much, much, much more of a concern. But not for the general public, bless 'em.
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